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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/08/02 22:59:15
Subject: Inspirations in 40k?
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Sinister Chaos Marine
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So obviously 40K is inspired by many real world sources, some quite clear, others more subtle.
So I was wondering if everyone could name some of the sources they think 40K (in general, like the armies, weapons, and general style of the factions) is based off?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/08/02 23:29:41
Subject: Inspirations in 40k?
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Hacking Proxy Mk.1
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Most of the imperium, including the ideas of noble lords in space, navigators, the emperor and even space marines are taken directly from Dune, as are things like Psykers in general I believe, as well as lasguns?
Hive cities and Arbites are directly taken from AD2000 comics (Judge Dredd).
The term flamer and more about space marines are from Starship Troopers.
The greater chaos daemons are stolen directly from D&D (fun fact GW made models for D&D before their own IP was 'developed' off it). Automatically Appended Next Post: Oh, Alien is another with genesteelers/xenomorphs. Automatically Appended Next Post: Oh, and the original necrons where basically just Terminators.
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Fafnir wrote:Oh, I certainly vote with my dollar, but the problem is that that is not enough. The problem with the 'vote with your dollar' response is that it doesn't take into account why we're not buying the product. I want to enjoy 40k enough to buy back in. It was my introduction to traditional games, and there was a time when I enjoyed it very much. I want to buy 40k, but Gamesworkshop is doing their very best to push me away, and simply not buying their product won't tell them that. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/08/03 04:24:05
Subject: Inspirations in 40k?
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Brigadier General
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Dune is a biggie as was mentioned. Some others:
I think that Rogue Trooper (another 2000 AD comic) was some inspiration as well, though I'm not as familiar with much of it.
Obviously the look and feel of Imperium borrows much from the Catholic church, it's inquisition, hierarchy, use of latin, imagery, etc.
Visually, tau are a way to bring Anime Mecha fans into the 40k fold.
Imperial Guard analogues are pretty obvious,
Tanks based on Mark series ww1 tanks
The Cadians are Aliens Colonial Marines (which are themselves Vietnam-era-US army-In space).
Catachans are Rambos.
Death Corp are ww1 germans
Steel Legion are ww2 german-ish
Valhallans and Vostroyans are Russians
etc, etc...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/08/03 04:29:10
Subject: Re:Inspirations in 40k?
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Jinking Ravenwing Land Speeder Pilot
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Necrons = basically a bunch of Terminators
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/08/03 06:28:21
Subject: Re:Inspirations in 40k?
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Irked Necron Immortal
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The Imperium is more like the Roman Empire.
The Orks are the Huns.
Space Marines are the knights who went on crusades.
Tau are Gundam Wing with Trade federation (Star Wars) element worked in.
Eldar are High elves.
Dark Eldar are a combination of druglord/gangbangers/escaped mental patients.
Tyranids are dragons and army ants
Necrons are Egyptian T1000s
Chaos forces are a mix of deathmetal fans, Biker gangs and soccer fans whose team had lost.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/08/03 06:40:36
Subject: Inspirations in 40k?
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Grizzled Space Wolves Great Wolf
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Tyranids ripped off Zerg *runs away laughing* Sorry, couldn't help myself.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/08/03 07:49:20
Subject: Re:Inspirations in 40k?
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Hacking Proxy Mk.1
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Actually I believe that is exactly what Space Orcs where when they where first introduced. The Space Marine game did a pretty good job of getting that across too with the voice acting.
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Fafnir wrote:Oh, I certainly vote with my dollar, but the problem is that that is not enough. The problem with the 'vote with your dollar' response is that it doesn't take into account why we're not buying the product. I want to enjoy 40k enough to buy back in. It was my introduction to traditional games, and there was a time when I enjoyed it very much. I want to buy 40k, but Gamesworkshop is doing their very best to push me away, and simply not buying their product won't tell them that. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/08/03 08:22:23
Subject: Inspirations in 40k?
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Dune
Alien
Starship Troopers
maybe Ender's Game
Terminator
every war
Dark Crystal
the C'thulhu Mythos
Rome
Sparta
Germany
Russia
Japan
the animes
the punk movement
the Spanish Inquisition
the Holy Crusades
so on and so forth
It pulls from lots of stuff. Its the way its presented that makes it so enjoyable. For me at least.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/08/03 09:51:40
Subject: Inspirations in 40k?
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Missionary On A Mission
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Starcraft.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/08/03 09:52:19
Subject: Inspirations in 40k?
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Somewhere I read that Blanche was inspired by fashion design when he was coming up with Sisters of Battle.
Baroque art is a big source of inspiration - all the skulls, spikes, cherubs, etc.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/08/03 11:15:57
Subject: Inspirations in 40k?
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Pragmatic Primus Commanding Cult Forces
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Many 40k armies were inspired by their Fantasy counterparts.
Eldar are your standard tolkienesque High Elves in space
Dark Eldar are Dark Elves in space.
Orks are based on a combination of traditional Orc and football hooligans.
Necrons are Tomb Kings in space and inspired by ancient Egypt and mummie horror movies.
Blood Angels are inspired by vampires.
The Imperium and it's organisations also all have counterparts in WHFB, as well as taking a lot of ideas from other sci-fi works such as Dune, Starship Troopers and Judge Dredd.
There is also a lot of real world influence here.
Space Wolves are Vikings in space.
Krieg and Armageddon are based on WW1 and WW2 Germany.
Vostroya is inspired by the Cossacks.
Valhalla is inspired by a popular Hollywood perception of the Red Army.
Tallarn is based on Arabic influences.
The White Scars are based on the Mongols
And so on and so on. There is a huge amount of different inspirations for 40k's many different factions.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/08/03 12:35:31
Subject: Re:Inspirations in 40k?
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Stitch Counter
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Interesting...
Anyway, the closest was the 2000AD comics.
The main answer is Nemesis the Warlock, ABC Warriors and Judge Dredd
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/08/03 13:40:20
Subject: Inspirations in 40k?
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Brigadier General
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Wow, Wulfmar,
I'd not seen that artwork before. It looks like the "Brotherhood" faction (another militant religious group with an inquisitorial element) in the Warzone game may have been HEAVILY influenced by that art as well.
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