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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/08/03 21:01:08
Subject: Can you use a positional relay reserved unit to simultaneously bring on outflankers automatically
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Lone Wolf Sentinel Pilot
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So today a Tau player down at my local GW used a tactic that made me raise my eyebrows in doubt.
What he did was the following:
1) Stealth Suits come in turn 2 from outflank normally <6" distance from the opponent's board edge and use the positional relay
2) Immediately after, in the same turn, this apparently allowed O'Vesa, Darkstrider and 12 Fire warriors (one unit) to come on from his opponents board edge with no reserve roll.
The Tau player used the logic that there was no "needed to start the turn on the board" clause in the wargear description as with various Imperial items.
Now I don't play Tau so I don't know the wording on the wargear but wouldn't this naturally not work because of the order of things in the turn?
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This message was edited 2 times. Last update was at 2014/08/03 21:02:35
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/08/03 21:07:40
Subject: Can you use a positional relay reserved unit to simultaneously bring on outflankers automatically
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Lieutenant General
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'Moving on from Reserve' in the 'Mission Special Rules' section of the main rulebook answers your question I believe.
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'It is a source of constant consternation that my opponents cannot correlate their innate inferiority with their inevitable defeat. It would seem that stupidity is as eternal as war.'
- Nemesor Zahndrekh of the Sautekh Dynasty Overlord of the Crownworld of Gidrim |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/08/04 02:23:11
Subject: Can you use a positional relay reserved unit to simultaneously bring on outflankers automatically
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Fixture of Dakka
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Ghaz, I've always had questions concerning that: 1) Which Unit is evoking the Rule, the one on the table or the one arriving from Reserves? 2) A Special Rule modifies the Out-flank Arrival method, limited to the bearer of said Rule, can it be used if that Model is arriving from Reserve that turn? 3) Now that the Start of Turn and Start of Movement Phase are no longer simultaneous, how does that effect Special Rules used at the Start of the Movement Phase?
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2014/08/04 03:07:08
8th made it so I can no longer sway Tau onto the side of Chaos, but they will eventually turn aside from their idea of the Greater Good to embrace the Greatest of pleasures. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/08/04 02:25:25
Subject: Can you use a positional relay reserved unit to simultaneously bring on outflankers automatically
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Lieutenant General
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Reserves arrive and move at the start of the turn, not the Movement phase.
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'It is a source of constant consternation that my opponents cannot correlate their innate inferiority with their inevitable defeat. It would seem that stupidity is as eternal as war.'
- Nemesor Zahndrekh of the Sautekh Dynasty Overlord of the Crownworld of Gidrim |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/08/04 02:37:11
Subject: Can you use a positional relay reserved unit to simultaneously bring on outflankers automatically
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Fixture of Dakka
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This I know, how does it relate to any of the questions I asked?
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8th made it so I can no longer sway Tau onto the side of Chaos, but they will eventually turn aside from their idea of the Greater Good to embrace the Greatest of pleasures. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/08/04 03:06:11
Subject: Can you use a positional relay reserved unit to simultaneously bring on outflankers automatically
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Lieutenant General
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The first question is answered in the OP.
The third question is of no consequence to the OP, in my opinion because it doesn't occur at the start of the Movement phase.
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'It is a source of constant consternation that my opponents cannot correlate their innate inferiority with their inevitable defeat. It would seem that stupidity is as eternal as war.'
- Nemesor Zahndrekh of the Sautekh Dynasty Overlord of the Crownworld of Gidrim |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/08/04 03:49:32
Subject: Can you use a positional relay reserved unit to simultaneously bring on outflankers automatically
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Fixture of Dakka
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Ghaz, You have me quite confused with these indirect answers, so I guess I will just shrug. I simply want to know the extent of that Restriction when it comes to preventing Ability and Special Rules from functioning during this period of time. I have a few problems with the concept that all Special Rules are null-and-void for Units in or Arriving from Reserves. Even if we are to give exceptions for Special Rules designed for use during this period of time, such as Deep Strike for not being able to access that while Arriving from Reserves would be confusing to say the least, there are still some interactions which I puzzle over. The largest is what happens if a Special Rule alters a Rule that is already interacting with Reserves, and if that Rule could be accessed by a Unit Arriving from Reserves.
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This message was edited 2 times. Last update was at 2014/08/04 17:25:45
8th made it so I can no longer sway Tau onto the side of Chaos, but they will eventually turn aside from their idea of the Greater Good to embrace the Greatest of pleasures. |
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