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Looking for more critique on a new nurgle themed list. I already have 3x bikers, 1x chaos term. lord, and 7x plague marines so please include at least most of those in updated lists.

HQ:

Nurgle Daemon Prince: Wings, Power Armour, BBoS : 250 pts.

Nurgle Terminator Lord: MoN, Term Armour w/ CB and LC, BG, SoC : 155 pts.

Troops:

Chaos Cultists: 20 w/ Flamer : 95 pts.

Chaos Cultists: 15 w/ Flamer : 75 pts.

5x Plague Marines: 2x flamer, champ with CB+PF, rhino : 203 pts.

5x Plague Marines: 2x melta, champ with CB+BP, rhino : 168 pts.

Fast Attack:

5x Chaos Bikers: MoN, 2x melta, champ w/ PF+BP : 185 pts.

Heldrake w/ Baleflamer : 170 pts.

Heavy Support:

Forgefiend with 3 ECs : 200 pts.


I feel like this list is pretty solid, but there seems to be a lot of anti tank and no anti infantry. Any criticism is greatly appreciated as I am new to chaos

IMO Nurgle Spawn are better than Nurgle bikers for a bikelord. I would suggest giving the 2nd plaguemarine squad meltas and making that switch.

Is it worth the 25 points to upgrade the Lords 5++ to a 4++ ?

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 Opera wrote:
Is it worth the 25 points to upgrade the Lords 5++ to a 4++ ?

Where would you put the points instead? I couldn't really find anywhere better other than another PF.




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 Sillycybin wrote:
You want plague marines to get assaulted not be assaulted, it would be better to set up those plagues as normal marines and give them more numbers if you want close combat flamers.

The terminator lord is a costly unit that won't likely be making its points back being so slow.

I plan on sticking the lord in a rhino with one squad of plague marines. Would that not be a good tactic?

I've also decided to replace the flamers with plasmas.

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 Sillycybin wrote:
Terminators cannot ride in rhinos

Plasma plague marines are a good unit.

Oh alright, i totally forgot. Would you recommend taking Typhus instead? and putting him with 30 or so zombies?

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Typhus great for morphing cultist into plague zomies.

 Sillycybin wrote:
I'd recommend taking a chaos lord on a bike with mark of nurgle, pf and lc. Put him with the bikers you already have. Typhus costs the same as a landraider, that's never a good sign.

Do you have somewhere i could find a guide for the lord conversion? I've always been intrigued by that idea.

I'd drop the forgefiend and go for a maulerfiend (so you can use the same model). It will be 75 points cheaper, and will serve as more beneficial part of your army. Right now, the forgefiedn is target number 1. It has to live a few rounds to get it's points back. On the other hand a maulerfiend is cheaper, and will be such a distraction that your rhinos may make it past turn 1. If they focus on your rhinos, then you punish them for not focusing on the mauler. It's win win for you.

Also, I agree that spawn are better than bikers. I'd put the extra 75 points you save from the forgefiend into putting your lord on a bike and decking him out. Nurgle with CS upgrades comes to mind.

You're on the right path, though!

 Nuln_Oil wrote:
I'd drop the forgefiend and go for a maulerfiend (so you can use the same model). It will be 75 points cheaper, and will serve as more beneficial part of your army. Right now, the forgefiedn is target number 1. It has to live a few rounds to get it's points back. On the other hand a maulerfiend is cheaper, and will be such a distraction that your rhinos may make it past turn 1. If they focus on your rhinos, then you punish them for not focusing on the mauler. It's win win for you.

Also, I agree that spawn are better than bikers. I'd put the extra 75 points you save from the forgefiend into putting your lord on a bike and decking him out. Nurgle with CS upgrades comes to mind.

You're on the right path, though!

Okay, I changed my lord to : MoN, Bike, LC, PF, PA, AoDG for 160 pts.

I removed two bikers (still kept meltas, figured they could take out a vehicle early before becoming fodder), replacing them with 3 spawn with nurgle (lord goes here?).

I removed the forgefiend for a maulerfiend with lasher tendrils.

1497 pts.

JNS...

Just in answer to your question I don't know where I would put your other 25 points. So I tried making a list similar to yours except I am using two relic predator with the plasma destroyer gun (and havoc launchers) with Daemonic possession. I think this list would be better but those predators are expensive unless you can convert them.

1500 points:

HQ
Daemon Prince
Burning Brand of Skalanthrax, Nurgle, Power Armour, Wings

Troops
10x Chaos Cultists
10x Chaos Cultists

Fast Attack
Heldrake

Second detachment (Crimson Slaughter)

HQ
Chaos Lord
Bike, Daemonheart, Mark of Nurgle, Sigil of corruption
Power Armour
Bolt Pistol, Power Fist

Troops
Plague Marines
2x Plasma Gun, 5x Plague Marine
Chaos Rhino
Plague Champion
Bolt Pistol, CCW, Melta Bombs

Plague Marines
2x Meltagun, 5x Plague Marine
Chaos Rhino
Plague Champion
Bolt Pistol, CCW, Melta Bombs

Fast Attack
Chaos Spawn
Mark of Nurgle, 3x Spawn

Heavy Support
Chaos Relic Predator
Daemonic possession, Havoc launcher, Plasma Destroyer

Chaos Relic Predator
Daemonic possession, Havoc launcher, Plasma Destroyer

I like that list, I just haven't looked at the crimson slaughter supplement yet. I'll have to take a look. Thanks! I definitely have thought about predators instead of what i have.