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Right, Ork mek gunz. They're a fantastic unit, and the models look amazing, both evoking the old ork support gunz from 2nd ed and fitting in with the more modern aesthetic. They can put out a ton of blast markers or provide the best anti-air option in the game, and the best part is, at only 30 pts per model, they're cheap!

Except they're not. At $55 (Canadian) for a single model that comes to under 40 pts even with the extra crew, you've got to spend $275 to have a full battery and you'd have less than 200 points for it. It's hard to justify spending that kind of money (Stormclaw was $150 by contrast, a 770 point stompa is $140) on so little return.

So this got me wondering: how much should GW try to balance the rules against the cost of the model in actual dollars? Ideally, you'd think the design studio should be totally independent of manufacturing, with the rules designed for balance and the health of the game. But if $55 is what the price needs to be to turn a profit on these models (and they are really nice models), should they be more effective in the game to justify the money? Should the designers take the cost of the model into consideration when writing the rules?

You'd think "obviously, no", but now we've got $55, 30-point mek gunz, and that doesn't seem great either.

Its like starting Ravenwing, Azreal is the better choice over sammael, even though sammael is cooler, because Azreal is $20 for 215 pts and makes bikers troop while sammael is $49.50 and is 200 pts for the same effect.

I thought GW would want to stay a way from 1 point equals 1 Dollar. Playing a 1500 point game would basically mean you need $1500 dollars to play then.

Who would ever want to start when you know that is how much it's going to cost you to play. Even $500 for a small point game seems expensive and I don't think I want to know that is how much money I need to spend just to play.

I find it bad enough GW is giving one click bundles to just start an army, then to know to play a basic game (1500 points it seems is standard) I need a grand and a half to play, no thank you. Hopefully GW keeps away from this trend.

Points are suppose to be cheaper so we buy more, not become on par with, which seems to be the case for Orks, since I read someone say, some point costs are $2=1point.

The costs involved in making plastic model are entirely down to the number and size of the sprues used. Tooling a machine to make a certain sprue costs thousands or tens of thousands of dollars, after that you might spend 5 cents on plastic for each box.

A box with 2 unique, normal sized sprues should cost exactly as much as any other box with 2 unique, equal sized sprues.

Points in game shouldn't really be taken into account, or if it is it should tweak the price, not determine it.

Following in Australia prices:

Rhino - $55 - 35 pts
Mek Gunz - $67 - 30pts

Yes the Mek Gunz are more $ per point than the Rhino still but the rhino is still not that much better and has been this price for years.

 jonolikespie wrote:
Points in game shouldn't really be taken into account, or if it is it should tweak the price, not determine it.

I don't really think it's that simple. In an ideal world I think the models which are cheap to produce but expensive on the table should somewhat subsidise the cost of the expensive to produce but low point cost models.

I say "somewhat", I don't think it should 100% do that, but definitely to some extent.

Of course GW pricing is just bat poop crazy.


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 flukezor wrote:
Following in Australia prices:

Rhino - $55 - 35 pts
Mek Gunz - $67 - 30pts

Yes the Mek Gunz are more $ per point than the Rhino still but the rhino is still not that much better and has been this price for years.

That's not really the same. The Rhino can not be taken by itself. It's always going to be taken as a transport for a unit, once you determine the $ per point of the unit you are actually going to field, it's not nearly as bad (still worse than a raw tactical squad but it's a ton better than the Mek Gunz).