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2014/08/06 03:21:49
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2014/08/06 05:54:15
Subject: [1500] - Eldar - Competitive Lists
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Commoragh-bound Peer
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Right off the bat the second list looks a lot more all round and thus should be quite a bit more competitive.
The mantle of the laughing god stops your Farseer from being able to join the Jetbikes though, so what is their role in the second list as at just three they're not really that great...
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2014/08/06 06:44:20
Subject: [1500] - Eldar - Competitive Lists
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Ladies Love the Vibro-Cannon Operator
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Well, the 2nd list has a bit more variety. So I'd opt for it.
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Former moderator 40kOnline
Lanchester's square law - please obey in list building!
Illumini: "And thank you for not finishing your post with a " " I'm sorry, but after 7200 's that has to be the most annoying sign-off ever."
Armies: Eldar, Necrons, Blood Angels, Grey Knights; World Eaters (30k); Bloodbound; Cryx, Circle, Cyriss |
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2014/08/06 14:32:15
Subject: [1500] - Eldar - Competitive Lists
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I asked the guys at Forge the Narrative, and they said the first list was better. I was leaning towards it, but the question is AA. In 1500 games I'll likely be facing one flyer at most, so is 4 Wave Serpents enough?
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2014/08/06 14:38:43
Subject: [1500] - Eldar - Competitive Lists
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Rampaging Carnifex
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Do you need to kill flyers when you can negate a flyer's damage by simply jinking?
Ever since FMC have been nerfed, I've put a very low priority on AA and everything has been fine.
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2014/08/06 14:49:54
Subject: [1500] - Eldar - Competitive Lists
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Dakka Veteran
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Another question is should I take two Wraithknights? I could swap out one for a Fragon Serpent.
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2014/08/06 15:02:34
Subject: [1500] - Eldar - Competitive Lists
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Ladies Love the Vibro-Cannon Operator
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 Random Dude wrote:Another question is should I take two Wraithknights? I could swap out one for a Fragon Serpent.
No, please not. Two WK's are overkill and tactically not very wise. Take one and integrate 3 Warwalkers with dual scatterlasers. Much more bang for the bucks. The Jetseer could improve their shooting via guide or prescience.
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Lanchester's square law - please obey in list building!
Illumini: "And thank you for not finishing your post with a "" I'm sorry, but after 7200 's that has to be the most annoying sign-off ever."
Armies: Eldar, Necrons, Blood Angels, Grey Knights; World Eaters (30k); Bloodbound; Cryx, Circle, Cyriss |
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2014/08/06 15:13:27
Subject: [1500] - Eldar - Competitive Lists
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Dakka Veteran
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Here's my revised list:
HQ: Farseer (Singing Spear, Mantle of the Laughing God, Jetbike) 160
Troops: 5 Dire Avengers 65
Wave Serpent (Twin-linked Scatter Laser, Shuriken Cannon, Holo-Fields) 145
5 Dire Avengers 65
Wave Serpent (Twin-linked Scatter Laser, Shuriken Cannon, Holo-Fields) 145
5 Dire Avengers 65
Wave Serpent (Twin-linked Scatter Laser, Shuriken Cannon, Holo-Fields) 145
5 Dire Avengers 65
Wave Serpent (Twin-linked Scatter Laser, Shuriken Cannon, Holo-Fields) 145
Heavy Support: Wraithknight 240
3 Warwalkers (Dual Scatter Lasers, Holo-Fields) 255
Total: 1495
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2014/08/06 17:06:57
Subject: [1500] - Eldar - Competitive Lists
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Agile Revenant Titan
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One of the nastiest lists I could make would be this....
Hq
Mantle seer 155
Troop
3 jet bikes 51
3 jet bikes 51
3 jet bikes 51
3 jet bikes 51
heavy support
wraith knight 240
wraith knight 240
wraith knight 240
Lord of War:
Eldar lynx with scatter laser and sonic lance.
Lynx rapes all infintry, while wraith knights handle all else. I know not of a tac competitive list that would counter this.
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I do drugs.
Mostly Plastic Crack, but I do dabble in Cardboard Cocaine. |
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2014/08/06 17:15:57
Subject: [1500] - Eldar - Competitive Lists
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Random Dude wrote:I'm trying to build the most competitive list possible. I'm considering two lists. Suggestions welcome!
HQ: Farseer (Singing Spear, Mantle of the Laughing God, Jetbike) 160
Troops: 5 Dire Avengers 65
Wave Serpent (Twin-linked Scatter Laser, Shuriken Cannon, Holo-Fields) 145
5 Dire Avengers 65
Wave Serpent (Twin-linked Scatter Laser, Shuriken Cannon, Holo-Fields) 145
5 Dire Avengers 65
Wave Serpent (Twin-linked Scatter Laser, Shuriken Cannon, Holo-Fields) 145
5 Dire Avengers 65
Wave Serpent (Twin-linked Scatter Laser, Shuriken Cannon, Holo-Fields) 145
Heavy Support: Wraithknight 240
Wraithknight 240
Total: 1480
Here's the second list:
HQ: Farseer (Singing Spear, Mantle of the Laughing God, Jetbike) 160
Troops: 5 Dire Avengers 65
Wave Serpent (Twin-linked Scatter Laser, Shuriken Cannon, Holo-Fields) 145
5 Dire Avengers 65
Wave Serpent (Twin-linked Scatter Laser, Shuriken Cannon, Holo-Fields) 145
5 Dire Avengers 65
Wave Serpent (Twin-linked Scatter Laser, Shuriken Cannon, Holo-Fields) 145
3 Windrider Jetbikes 51
Elites: 5 Fire Dragons 110
Wave Serpent (Twin-linked Scatter Laser, Shuriken Cannon, Holo-Fields) 145
Fast Attack: Crimson Hunter 160
Heavy Support: Wraithknight 240
Total: 1496
*Yawn* Just read ever other wave serpant spam lists -there are plenty-, no need to post a duplicative list.
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2014/08/06 17:47:58
Subject: [1500] - Eldar - Competitive Lists
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Dakka Veteran
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 ninjafiredragon wrote:One of the nastiest lists I could make would be this....
Hq
Mantle seer 155
Troop
3 jet bikes 51
3 jet bikes 51
3 jet bikes 51
3 jet bikes 51
heavy support
wraith knight 240
wraith knight 240
wraith knight 240
Lord of War:
Eldar lynx with scatter laser and sonic lance.
Lynx rapes all infintry, while wraith knights handle all else. I know not of a tac competitive list that would counter this.
Most tournaments I plan on attending don't allow FW, but other than that it looks pretty great. Automatically Appended Next Post:  Nuln_Oil wrote: Random Dude wrote:I'm trying to build the most competitive list possible. I'm considering two lists. Suggestions welcome!
HQ: Farseer (Singing Spear, Mantle of the Laughing God, Jetbike) 160
Troops: 5 Dire Avengers 65
Wave Serpent (Twin-linked Scatter Laser, Shuriken Cannon, Holo-Fields) 145
5 Dire Avengers 65
Wave Serpent (Twin-linked Scatter Laser, Shuriken Cannon, Holo-Fields) 145
5 Dire Avengers 65
Wave Serpent (Twin-linked Scatter Laser, Shuriken Cannon, Holo-Fields) 145
5 Dire Avengers 65
Wave Serpent (Twin-linked Scatter Laser, Shuriken Cannon, Holo-Fields) 145
Heavy Support: Wraithknight 240
Wraithknight 240
Total: 1480
Here's the second list:
HQ: Farseer (Singing Spear, Mantle of the Laughing God, Jetbike) 160
Troops: 5 Dire Avengers 65
Wave Serpent (Twin-linked Scatter Laser, Shuriken Cannon, Holo-Fields) 145
5 Dire Avengers 65
Wave Serpent (Twin-linked Scatter Laser, Shuriken Cannon, Holo-Fields) 145
5 Dire Avengers 65
Wave Serpent (Twin-linked Scatter Laser, Shuriken Cannon, Holo-Fields) 145
3 Windrider Jetbikes 51
Elites: 5 Fire Dragons 110
Wave Serpent (Twin-linked Scatter Laser, Shuriken Cannon, Holo-Fields) 145
Fast Attack: Crimson Hunter 160
Heavy Support: Wraithknight 240
Total: 1496
*Yawn* Just read ever other wave serpant spam lists -there are plenty-, no need to post a duplicative list.
If you don't have anything helpful to add to the thread, don't comment at all.
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2014/08/06 18:08:16
Subject: [1500] - Eldar - Competitive Lists
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Agile Revenant Titan
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Random Dude wrote: ninjafiredragon wrote:One of the nastiest lists I could make would be this....
Hq
Mantle seer 155
Troop
3 jet bikes 51
3 jet bikes 51
3 jet bikes 51
3 jet bikes 51
heavy support
wraith knight 240
wraith knight 240
wraith knight 240
Lord of War:
Eldar lynx with scatter laser and sonic lance.
Lynx rapes all infintry, while wraith knights handle all else. I know not of a tac competitive list that would counter this.
Most tournaments I plan on attending don't allow FW, but other than that it looks pretty great.
Well with the stompa in the codex, that very well might change. Plus, the lynx doesnt have the D weapon, so I doubt they would complain.
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I do drugs.
Mostly Plastic Crack, but I do dabble in Cardboard Cocaine. |
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2014/08/06 18:09:53
Subject: [1500] - Eldar - Competitive Lists
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Nuln_Oil wrote: Random Dude wrote:I'm trying to build the most competitive list possible. I'm considering two lists. Suggestions welcome!
HQ: Farseer (Singing Spear, Mantle of the Laughing God, Jetbike) 160
Troops: 5 Dire Avengers 65
Wave Serpent (Twin-linked Scatter Laser, Shuriken Cannon, Holo-Fields) 145
5 Dire Avengers 65
Wave Serpent (Twin-linked Scatter Laser, Shuriken Cannon, Holo-Fields) 145
5 Dire Avengers 65
Wave Serpent (Twin-linked Scatter Laser, Shuriken Cannon, Holo-Fields) 145
5 Dire Avengers 65
Wave Serpent (Twin-linked Scatter Laser, Shuriken Cannon, Holo-Fields) 145
Heavy Support: Wraithknight 240
Wraithknight 240
Total: 1480
Here's the second list:
HQ: Farseer (Singing Spear, Mantle of the Laughing God, Jetbike) 160
Troops: 5 Dire Avengers 65
Wave Serpent (Twin-linked Scatter Laser, Shuriken Cannon, Holo-Fields) 145
5 Dire Avengers 65
Wave Serpent (Twin-linked Scatter Laser, Shuriken Cannon, Holo-Fields) 145
5 Dire Avengers 65
Wave Serpent (Twin-linked Scatter Laser, Shuriken Cannon, Holo-Fields) 145
3 Windrider Jetbikes 51
Elites: 5 Fire Dragons 110
Wave Serpent (Twin-linked Scatter Laser, Shuriken Cannon, Holo-Fields) 145
Fast Attack: Crimson Hunter 160
Heavy Support: Wraithknight 240
Total: 1496
*Yawn* Just read ever other wave serpant spam lists -there are plenty-, no need to post a duplicative list.
"If you don't have anything helpful to add to the thread, don't comment at all. "
Well, there is a forum rule regarding duplicative posts. This looks like 80% of the eldar lists out there, no need to go over the same exact issues. It's perfectly acceptable to comment on such, as many people have in the past.
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2014/08/06 19:47:12
Subject: [1500] - Eldar - Competitive Lists
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Agile Revenant Titan
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Nuln_Oil wrote: Nuln_Oil wrote: Random Dude wrote:I'm trying to build the most competitive list possible. I'm considering two lists. Suggestions welcome!
HQ: Farseer (Singing Spear, Mantle of the Laughing God, Jetbike) 160
Troops: 5 Dire Avengers 65
Wave Serpent (Twin-linked Scatter Laser, Shuriken Cannon, Holo-Fields) 145
5 Dire Avengers 65
Wave Serpent (Twin-linked Scatter Laser, Shuriken Cannon, Holo-Fields) 145
5 Dire Avengers 65
Wave Serpent (Twin-linked Scatter Laser, Shuriken Cannon, Holo-Fields) 145
5 Dire Avengers 65
Wave Serpent (Twin-linked Scatter Laser, Shuriken Cannon, Holo-Fields) 145
Heavy Support: Wraithknight 240
Wraithknight 240
Total: 1480
Here's the second list:
HQ: Farseer (Singing Spear, Mantle of the Laughing God, Jetbike) 160
Troops: 5 Dire Avengers 65
Wave Serpent (Twin-linked Scatter Laser, Shuriken Cannon, Holo-Fields) 145
5 Dire Avengers 65
Wave Serpent (Twin-linked Scatter Laser, Shuriken Cannon, Holo-Fields) 145
5 Dire Avengers 65
Wave Serpent (Twin-linked Scatter Laser, Shuriken Cannon, Holo-Fields) 145
3 Windrider Jetbikes 51
Elites: 5 Fire Dragons 110
Wave Serpent (Twin-linked Scatter Laser, Shuriken Cannon, Holo-Fields) 145
Fast Attack: Crimson Hunter 160
Heavy Support: Wraithknight 240
Total: 1496
*Yawn* Just read ever other wave serpant spam lists -there are plenty-, no need to post a duplicative list.
"If you don't have anything helpful to add to the thread, don't comment at all.
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Well, there is a forum rule regarding duplicative posts. This looks like 80% of the eldar lists out there, no need to go over the same exact issues. It's perfectly acceptable to comment on such, as many people have in the past.
OP just ignore people like this. Obviously we know its a net list, its over powered, and many others play it. If we post a list, that generally means we would have no problem fielding it.
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