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I wanted to start a new, smaller army and on a regular basis i play deathwing and draigo lists.
As a bit of a fun factor, i wanted to run a similar list but not going into these ones.

I know space wolves had the option with logan, but is this still possible please?
And are there any other armies out there with the possibility of these builds?

Thanks in advance dakka

Grey knights. Termies as troops with paladins in the elite slot. Rumors of them being next up for an update as well.

You could do abbadon with termies from chaos space marines, you won't be able to do only termies but you could fill the troops with cultists to sit on objectives

Not sure about the Space Marines.

Eldar can run a Pure Wraithguard/lord/knight list if you take a Spiritseer as an HQ.

The only way I can think of is deathwing or draigo, but my friend runs a salamanders list which is almost entirely termies with 2 small squads of scout snipers to fill up the troops requirement. So I suggest trying that, just basic marines codex. Have a cool character or nicely upgraded captain, 2 scout squads or tactical squads as troops (unupgraded), then spend he rest of the poits on terminators and a couple of transports

Any army with TEQ can do it.

Now if you don't want to play Unbound...then it narrows it down to just a few.

 Alienoid wrote:
You could do abbadon with termies from chaos space marines, you won't be able to do only termies but you could fill the troops with cultists to sit on objectives

In case you were confused 3 units of termies plus 2 units of cultists is not pure termies. At least 20 models do not have terminator armour.

Deathwing is not only a PURE terminator army, but a terminator army that auto deepstrikes turn one or two, at will.

Accept no substitutes.

Deathwing: Losing by turn 3 since 1896.

 Jackal wrote:
I wanted to start a new, smaller army and on a regular basis i play deathwing and draigo lists.
As a bit of a fun factor, i wanted to run a similar list but not going into these ones.

I know space wolves had the option with logan, but is this still possible please?
And are there any other armies out there with the possibility of these builds?

Thanks in advance dakka

I'm reasonably sure that Dark Angels and Grey Knights are the only way to run pure, 100% Terminator armies without dipping into Unbound now. It seems like GW is moving away from allowing things to change what slot a unit takes up - both Space Wolves and Orks lost any ability to do so in their new codices, and both of them had a couple of ways to do it in their previous books (Logan could make Wolf Guard Troops, Canis could do the same to Fenrisian Wolves; Warbosses allowed a single unit of Nobs to become Troops, and Wazdakka turned Bikes into Troops).

As others have said, though, you've basically got a few choices:

1. Run Unbound. Then you can run all the Terminators you want.
2. Run Grey Knights or Dark Angels, who can both get Terminators as Troop choices.
3. Run any sort of Marine army with minimum Troop choices, then fill out whatever slots you can with Terminators.

You can build an all TDA army of only OM Inquisitors with Psycannons, using Codex: Inquisitor, which requires 1-2 HQs, 0-3 Elites. You can easily take 20+ OM TDA ICs in a normal battle forged list.

SJ

Not sure how Crisis Suits compare to Termies but what about Farsight Enclaves?

For an equivalent, Blood angels have sanguinary guard as troops with dante. 2+ with power weapon and a two shot ap4 bolt pistol, with jump packs. Less survivable but move faster, limit 5 to a squad though. Same price as a termie squad base

Go unbound and every army can be Terminators only.

I've been wondering about this sort of too...

I originally wanted to run Deathwing... I like the auto deepstrike and rerolling to hit... plus give them the banner of fortitude and they can be resilient (I think)...

But I'm thinking I want to step away from DA and look towards Vanilla marines... no doubt if I want pure termies I'll have to run unbound but I'm still wondering what chapter tactics to run... also still haven't looked at the Current Space Pups dex to see if they can run straight termies like before when you ran Logan...

Grey Knights, Dark Angels and Space Wolves if Logan still makes Wolf Guard troops.

Thank you people

Unbound is not my thing.
I have put up with large monsters / vehicles being added, but an army with no structure just breaks it for me and my group.

The sang. guard dante list, wraith guard and crisis suit list all seem pretty convincing to me.

For the record, do ork warbosses still make a single unit of nobz a troop choice?

If so, wouldnt it be possible to run 2 mega armoured warbosses and then 2 units of meganobz for troop, while using more for elite?

 Jackal wrote:
For the record, do ork warbosses still make a single unit of nobz a troop choice?

If so, wouldnt it be possible to run 2 mega armoured warbosses and then 2 units of meganobz for troop, while using more for elite?

Afraid not, it's the same story as with the Wolves. Unbound or minimum Troops are your only options. Though in fairness, at least with Orks, minimum troops is 70 points of Grots.

The Champions of Fenris supplement coming next week. It has an HQ and elites requirement, but no troops requirement so you can load up on Wolf Guard terminators.

You could also do a Space Wolf Wolf Guard bike or jump pack army using the same rules.

If you don't mind taking 5 scouts, you can take carcharodons. As their chap master allows you to take a single LC termis unit as troops.

You could do something like this with Chaos using 4 CADs:

4 x Chaos Sorcerer, ML 2, Terminator armor, MoT
12 x 3 man CSM Terminators with MoN, various weapon load outs
8 10 man heretic squads

This is similar to the list I used in my only game of 7th edition, and it was instructive for me.

MSU Terminator squads are very hard to deal with. On the one hand, it does take a ton of shots to kill 3 Terminators. On the other hand, 36 terminators deal a ton of damage each turn.

I would suggest Deathwing...

you could also run the strike force ultra vanilla marine supplement.

The problem with Sanguinary Guard lists is that it is a ridiculously small army that rolls right over to AP2 weaponry amd anything strength 8+. It is mobile and a squad with Dante can be really nasty in deep strike strategy however, and can also be kitted out to rout anything. Glass cannon list full of fluff. However with so few actual models on the table this list will straight up die to any kind of dedicated shooting ie Necrons, Tau, AM, etc. Expect Necrons and Tau to table a guard list by turn five.

Any 30k legion army.......

A few problems guys:

As i said in the OP, i dont want to run greys or deathwing as 2 of my friends already run these lists.

I dont want excess models in basic armour.
1-2 i can live with if needs be, but not full units of normal models.

I think everything rolls over to AP2 with the possible exception of storm shield termies.
Its something that will hurt any army no matter what.



I do have a ton of the old metal and some resin wraith guard though, so i have ordered the book, supplement and a seer to be safe.

I'll suggest, as I always do, that you try a game of 2nd edition, where Terminators are troops

 Jackal wrote:
A few problems guys:

As i said in the OP, i dont want to run greys or deathwing as 2 of my friends already run these lists.

I dont want excess models in basic armour.
1-2 i can live with if needs be, but not full units of normal models.

I think everything rolls over to AP2 with the possible exception of storm shield termies.
Its something that will hurt any army no matter what.



I do have a ton of the old metal and some resin wraith guard though, so i have ordered the book, supplement and a seer to be safe.

if thats the case the best I can reccomend to you is pick up the Strike Force Ultra Dataslate and run those formations. IIRC running both formations works out to about 1750 points give or take