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An Orbital Bombardment is fired during the shooting phase using the profile listed, Ordnance 1, large blah etc etc.

But the rules in firing ordnance state a non-vehicle model CARRYING an ordnance weapon can not fire it during the ensuing movement phase if he moved prior to shooting.

Is it safe to say since he's calling an orbital bombardment, a non-relentless Chapter Master can still move and call the bombardment?

Also, if he's flying in a stormraven, can he call the bombardment, if hes in his transport and on the table?

I'm leaving the first one alone as it's not a question that'd ever be asked at a table.
The second is trivial - cite permission to fire from a transport without firing points.

rigeld2 wrote:
I'm leaving the first one alone as it's not a question that'd ever be asked at a table.
The second is trivial - cite permission to fire from a transport without firing points.

You don't have to have LoS when firing an Orbital Bombardment. So, my logic is since he's calling it in from an Orbital platform, why would he need a firing port?

Johnnytorrance wrote:
An Orbital Bombardment is fired during the shooting phase using the profile listed, Ordnance 1, large blah etc etc.

But the rules in firing ordnance state a non-vehicle model CARRYING an ordnance weapon can not fire it during the ensuing movement phase if he moved prior to shooting.

Is it safe to say since he's calling an orbital bombardment, a non-relentless Chapter Master can still move and call the bombardment?

Also, if he's flying in a stormraven, can he call the bombardment, if hes in his transport and on the table?

Yea... no. For all rules purposes the OB is treated as a weapon the CM is carrying. This means no moving and shooting unless relentless, and he cannot fire the weapon if there is no fire point on the vehicle.

Logic and Reason do not matter in an abstract system, the Rule states a Firing Point is required.
Still interesting hair splitting on the carrying thing though, does one 'carry' a Special Rule when it is fired as a Weapon?

Johnnytorrance wrote:

rigeld2 wrote:
I'm leaving the first one alone as it's not a question that'd ever be asked at a table.
The second is trivial - cite permission to fire from a transport without firing points.

You don't have to have LoS when firing an Orbital Bombardment. So, my logic is since he's calling it in from an Orbital platform, why would he need a firing port?

Becuase youre still firing a weapon, and what does firing a weapon require when embarked?

I had a guy that works for games work shop do this in a match we was playing with the forge world rhino with that very chapter master so yes it can be done also the rhino he was in had a 1 time use one as well.

Blue/Black/Redshirts, in general, know less than the average gamer does about the actual rules of the game

His rolls was bad so it drifted off into nothing hit.

Maybe in order to call down an orbital bombardment the GK captain/chaptermaster has to steadily illuminate an area with a complex device that doesn't work well when shaken, such as when moving around a battlefield. So fluff reasons why he has to be stationary and needs a firing port, in support of the rules.

Of course a GK captain is in terminator armour, and so is relentless and counts as stationary anyway, and so many chaptermasters seem to come on bikes nowadays, conferring the same thing....

nosferatu1001 wrote:

Johnnytorrance wrote:

rigeld2 wrote:
I'm leaving the first one alone as it's not a question that'd ever be asked at a table.
The second is trivial - cite permission to fire from a transport without firing points.

You don't have to have LoS when firing an Orbital Bombardment. So, my logic is since he's calling it in from an Orbital platform, why would he need a firing port?

Becuase youre still firing a weapon, and what does firing a weapon require when embarked?

When you're calling an orbital bombardment, you're not firing. You're using your mouth to tell the gunner on the ship in space to shoot it at the location you desire.

That's why I'm asking the question.

Johnnytorrance wrote:

nosferatu1001 wrote:

Johnnytorrance wrote:

rigeld2 wrote:
I'm leaving the first one alone as it's not a question that'd ever be asked at a table.
The second is trivial - cite permission to fire from a transport without firing points.

You don't have to have LoS when firing an Orbital Bombardment. So, my logic is since he's calling it in from an Orbital platform, why would he need a firing port?

Becuase youre still firing a weapon, and what does firing a weapon require when embarked?

When you're calling an orbital bombardment, you're not firing. You're using your mouth to tell the gunner on the ship in space to shoot it at the location you desire.

That's why I'm asking the question.

The rules state you are shooting, therefore, you are shooting. Since you are shooting a weapon that requires you to remain stationary (unless you have the relentless USR or some other rule overriding this), you must remain stationary (or not shoot that weapon), just as you must have a fire-point if embarked upon a vehicle, and any other rules that apply to shooting.
Fluff is irrelevant.

Regardless of the fact that it has infinite range you are still measuring and you cannot measure a firing attack from a non existent fire point.

Logic =/= rules :/

Johnnytorrance wrote:

nosferatu1001 wrote:

Johnnytorrance wrote:

rigeld2 wrote:
I'm leaving the first one alone as it's not a question that'd ever be asked at a table.
The second is trivial - cite permission to fire from a transport without firing points.

You don't have to have LoS when firing an Orbital Bombardment. So, my logic is since he's calling it in from an Orbital platform, why would he need a firing port?

Becuase youre still firing a weapon, and what does firing a weapon require when embarked?

When you're calling an orbital bombardment, you're not firing. You're using your mouth to tell the gunner on the ship in space to shoot it at the location you desire.

That's why I'm asking the question.

No, you are firing. As that is what the rules unequivocally state you are doing.