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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/08/11 16:10:38
Subject: Police shoot unarmed suspect, animals riot in response.
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http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/crime-and-courts/violence-breaks-out-near-site-of-vigil-for-teen-killed/article_f9d627dc-e3c8-5bde-b2ab-7f0a3d36a083.html
FERGUSON • A calmer dawn broke Monday morning after a night of protest and looting in Ferguson left broken glass and at least one burned-out building.
Officer Brian Schellman of the St. Louis County police said two officers were injured overnight Sunday — one was hit by a brick and one suffered knee injuries. Police arrested 32 people for theft, assault or burglary.
The protests followed the fatal shooting on Saturday of Michael Brown, 18, by police. Authorities said Sunday that a police officer shot Brown, who was unarmed, after the teen attacked the Ferguson officer. After protests and a vigil earlier in the day, some people broke into stores and looted them, setting fire to a QuikTrip and leaving glass and other debris strewn about.
Schellman said the looting and destruction stopped and the area had quieted a down about 3:30 a.m. Monday.
He said the police helicopter was shot at once or twice, but was not hit. He said the night was a scary situation for even veteran officers.
Jennings school district canceled the first day of school today, saying it was concerned for student safety in the wake of Sunday night's violence.
"Safety is our uppermost concern," a Jennings release said. "At this time we do not feel it's safe for our students to walk to school."
Officials said they hoped classes could begin Tuesday.
On the lot of a QuikTrip that was looted and burned Sunday night, some men who said they had been there last night defended the damage as a response to injustice.
DeAndre Smith, 30, of Ferguson was happy to justify the looting when a reporter asked him about it Monday morning.
"This is exactly what is supposed to be happening when an injustice is happening in your community," he said, adding: "You have kids getting killed for nothing."
Smith, who moved to St. Louis from New York in December, said there could be more to come.
"I don't think it's over honestly," he said. "I just think they got a taste of what fighting back means."
Karl McCarty, 39, of Bellefontaine Neighbors, watched the chaos Sunday night and was back again Monday. He said he had a message for the young men leading the charge:
"Let it go, let justice prevail. And if doesn't prevail in the way they want, don't do this again."
McCarty said as a black man he sympathizes with the mother of Brown greatly, but thinks the protest becoming violent and destructive was all wrong.
"Sometime we create our own demise. You didn't hurt Ferguson police, you hurt yourself," said McCarty, who is a contractor in St. Louis.
"My heart goes out to her," he said of the dead teen's mother. "At a time we could have been grieving or supporting her, I feel we failed her. Instead of having a nice, simple vigil, it turned into chaos confusion and destruction."
Others also showed up to express dismay at the looting or help clean up.
Leonette Hilliard, who works as a middle school English teacher, stopped by the QuikTrip. Using one of her school folders, she wrote a note to the store and taped it to the side wall.
"Corporate neighbor: I am sorry this act of robbery and violence has happened. Please return soon."
The note was taped over graffiti saying "187 county police," the 187 a slang reference to murder.
She said she comes to the store to two or three times per week and has been doing so for about 15 years.
"This just doesn't represent who we are as a community and I wanted just to say something to do something that was productive," she said.
Pamela Richardson, 51, of Jennings, came to Ferguson on Monday morning and started picking up trash left by the looters at the QuikTrip store. A bit of smoke was still coming from the burned-out building. She rounded up beer cans and discarded Powerball tickets and crushed soda cans from the lot.
"It sends the wrong kind of message," she said of the looters. "Don't destroy other people's property that they worked hard for because something else has happened. One doesn't outweigh the other, you know. No connection between the two."
Workers at an AutoZone swept up broken glass from the windows that were shattered and workers at a nearby cellphone store waited on a company to board up the front plate glass window.
The glass walls of a metro bus stop were broken, and trash was strewn up and down the road.
The NAACP released a statement Monday morning saying state and local branches would seek answers about the shooting of Brown and the national office would monitor the situation.
"The death of yet another African-American at the hands of those sworn to protect and serve the community where he lived is heartbreaking," NAACP president COrnell Williams Brooks said in the statement. "Michael Brown was preparing to begin college, and now his family is preparing to bury their child — his life cut short in a tragic encounter with the police."
The group called for calm collective action.
"Even as we call for accountability by those charged with protecting the community, we call on the community to act —collectively and calmly until we secure justice for the family of Michael Brown," the statement said.
I'd like to bring everyones attention to this tidbit.
DeAndre Smith, 30, of Ferguson was happy to justify the looting when a reporter asked him about it Monday morning.
"This is exactly what is supposed to be happening when an injustice is happening in your community," he said, adding: "You have kids getting killed for nothing."
I'd say next time, lets just shoot these people.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/08/11 16:13:38
Subject: Police shoot unarmed suspect, animals riot in response.
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5th God of Chaos! (Yea'rly!)
The Great State of Texas
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In Texas, we do.
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-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
-"Don't mind Frazzled. He's just Dakka's crazy old dude locked in the attic. He's harmless. Mostly."
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/08/11 16:15:31
Subject: Police shoot unarmed suspect, animals riot in response.
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"after the teen attacked the Ferguson officer"
Seriously is this a thing?
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Unit1126PLL wrote: Scott-S6 wrote:And yet another thread is hijacked for Unit to ask for the same advice, receive the same answers and make the same excuses.
Oh my god I'm becoming martel.
Send help!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/08/11 16:28:34
Subject: Police shoot unarmed suspect, animals riot in response.
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Only one night of riots? Casuals.
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Mandorallen turned back toward the insolently sneering baron. 'My Lord,' The great knight said distantly, 'I find thy face apelike and thy form misshapen. Thy beard, moreover, is an offence against decency, resembling more closely the scabrous fur which doth decorate the hinder portion of a mongrel dog than a proper adornment for a human face. Is it possibly that thy mother, seized by some wild lechery, did dally at some time past with a randy goat?' - Mimbrate Knight Protector Mandorallen.
Excerpt from "Seeress of Kell", Book Five of The Malloreon series by David Eddings.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/08/11 16:31:49
Subject: Police shoot unarmed suspect, animals riot in response.
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Desubot wrote:"after the teen attacked the Ferguson officer"
Seriously is this a thing?
Details on the affair are sketchy at best, so I'm not forming an opinion yet.
But remember how close this nation came 2 years ago to tearing in half over a man shooting someone who was smashing his head into a concrete block...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/08/11 16:36:02
Subject: Police shoot unarmed suspect, animals riot in response.
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Secret Force Behind the Rise of the Tau
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fire to a QuikTrip
This really shouldn't be a crime. QuickTrip deserves to be burned to the ground
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/08/11 16:50:11
Subject: Police shoot unarmed suspect, animals riot in response.
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/08/11 16:58:09
Subject: Police shoot unarmed suspect, animals riot in response.
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Mandorallen turned back toward the insolently sneering baron. 'My Lord,' The great knight said distantly, 'I find thy face apelike and thy form misshapen. Thy beard, moreover, is an offence against decency, resembling more closely the scabrous fur which doth decorate the hinder portion of a mongrel dog than a proper adornment for a human face. Is it possibly that thy mother, seized by some wild lechery, did dally at some time past with a randy goat?' - Mimbrate Knight Protector Mandorallen.
Excerpt from "Seeress of Kell", Book Five of The Malloreon series by David Eddings.
My deviantART Profile - Pay No Attention To The Man Behind The Madness
"You need not fear us, unless you are a dark heart, a vile one who preys on the innocent; I promise, you can’t hide forever in the empty darkness, for we will hunt you down like the animals you are, and pull you into the very bowels of hell." Iron - Within Temptation |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/08/11 17:12:48
Subject: Police shoot unarmed suspect, animals riot in response.
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djones520 wrote: Desubot wrote:"after the teen attacked the Ferguson officer"
Seriously is this a thing?
Details on the affair are sketchy at best, so I'm not forming an opinion yet.
But remember how close this nation came 2 years ago to tearing in half over a man shooting someone who was smashing his head into a concrete block...
in canada, we just apologize to people who are smasing our heads into the concrete,
why cant you yanks just do the same?
then you only lose city blocks to rioting during the stanly cup playoffs.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/08/11 17:30:42
Subject: Police shoot unarmed suspect, animals riot in response.
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easysauce wrote: djones520 wrote: Desubot wrote:"after the teen attacked the Ferguson officer"
Seriously is this a thing?
Details on the affair are sketchy at best, so I'm not forming an opinion yet.
But remember how close this nation came 2 years ago to tearing in half over a man shooting someone who was smashing his head into a concrete block...
in canada, we just apologize to people who are smasing our heads into the concrete,
why cant you yanks just do the same?
then you only lose city blocks to rioting during the stanly cup playoffs.
See our teams actually WIN Stanley Cup Playoffs.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/08/11 17:34:19
Subject: Police shoot unarmed suspect, animals riot in response.
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Desubot wrote:"after the teen attacked the Ferguson officer"
Seriously is this a thing?
The officer involved is stating that he was assaulted by Brown and pushed into his vehicle, but that Brown ended up recieving fatal gunshot wounds 35ft from the vehicle. The mother was allegedly told that the guy was shot a total of eight times, and witnesses are stating that he had his hands up and was surrendering. This article doesn't put that bit of info in, but it's mentioned here
So yeah, at the moment it's he-said-she-said, with the idiots who started rioting having fouled the entire thing up.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/08/11 17:34:26
Subject: Re:Police shoot unarmed suspect, animals riot in response.
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5th God of Chaos! (Ho-hum)
Curb stomping in the Eye of Terror!
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This happened about 15 minutes from where I live...
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Live Ork, Be Ork. or D'Ork!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/08/11 17:34:36
Subject: Police shoot unarmed suspect, animals riot in response.
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I'm still kinda shocked to see this style of violence so close to home. It's sad to see people using an unfortunate event as an excuse for looting. * I'm in the same boat as Whembly...it's about 15-20 minutes from my house, but on the Illinois-side.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/08/11 17:35:26
Subject: Re:Police shoot unarmed suspect, animals riot in response.
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5th God of Chaos! (Yea'rly!)
The Great State of Texas
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So, did you get a nice TV out of it?
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-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
-"Don't mind Frazzled. He's just Dakka's crazy old dude locked in the attic. He's harmless. Mostly."
-TBone the Magnificent 1999-2014, Long Live the King!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/08/11 17:37:02
Subject: Police shoot unarmed suspect, animals riot in response.
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5th God of Chaos! (Ho-hum)
Curb stomping in the Eye of Terror!
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Goliath wrote: Desubot wrote:"after the teen attacked the Ferguson officer"
Seriously is this a thing?
The officer involved is stating that he was assaulted by Brown and pushed into his vehicle, but that Brown ended up recieving fatal gunshot wounds 35ft from the vehicle. The mother was allegedly told that the guy was shot a total of eight times, and witnesses are stating that he had his hands up and was surrendering. This article doesn't put that bit of info in, but it's mentioned here
So yeah, at the moment it's he-said-she-said, with the idiots who started rioting having fouled the entire thing up.
We need to be careful here and wait for all the facts.
What I heard initially, was that Brown pushed the officer back into the car and tried to get his weapon.
Whaaaaaat? o.O
And the looting?  I'm so embarrassed.
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Nah... not sure if I'd survive.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/08/11 17:47:29
Subject: Police shoot unarmed suspect, animals riot in response.
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djones520 wrote: easysauce wrote: djones520 wrote: Desubot wrote:"after the teen attacked the Ferguson officer"
Seriously is this a thing?
Details on the affair are sketchy at best, so I'm not forming an opinion yet.
But remember how close this nation came 2 years ago to tearing in half over a man shooting someone who was smashing his head into a concrete block...
in canada, we just apologize to people who are smasing our heads into the concrete,
why cant you yanks just do the same?
then you only lose city blocks to rioting during the stanly cup playoffs.
See our teams actually WIN Stanley Cup Playoffs.
Last time we won the cup the rivers of canada ran red with blood for weeks.
but seriously,
weather the shooting was right or wrong, senseless looting and vandalism are not an appropriate response. It helps no one, and hurts many more.
"oh someone got shot unjustifiably? I better commit another unjustifiable crime to make it right! up up and awayyyyyyy rioting mob powers activate"
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/08/11 17:53:29
Subject: Police shoot unarmed suspect, animals riot in response.
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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whembly wrote: Goliath wrote: Desubot wrote:"after the teen attacked the Ferguson officer"
Seriously is this a thing?
The officer involved is stating that he was assaulted by Brown and pushed into his vehicle, but that Brown ended up recieving fatal gunshot wounds 35ft from the vehicle. The mother was allegedly told that the guy was shot a total of eight times, and witnesses are stating that he had his hands up and was surrendering. This article doesn't put that bit of info in, but it's mentioned here
So yeah, at the moment it's he-said-she-said, with the idiots who started rioting having fouled the entire thing up.
We need to be careful here and wait for all the facts.
What I heard initially, was that Brown pushed the officer back into the car and tried to get his weapon.
Whaaaaaat? o.O
And the looting?  I'm so embarrassed.
Oh, yeah. I was attempting to give info from both sides, based on what I've heard reading news articles  More for thepurposes of "Don't start shouting at one side, there's more than one side to this" than "Actually you should be shouting at the police".
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/08/11 18:01:08
Subject: Re:Police shoot unarmed suspect, animals riot in response.
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When I read this thread's headline, the first thing that came to mind was a Zoo.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/08/11 18:01:57
Subject: Police shoot unarmed suspect, animals riot in response.
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5th God of Chaos! (Yea'rly!)
The Great State of Texas
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Is this East St. Louis?
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-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
-"Don't mind Frazzled. He's just Dakka's crazy old dude locked in the attic. He's harmless. Mostly."
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/08/11 18:23:54
Subject: Re:Police shoot unarmed suspect, animals riot in response.
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Waaagh! Ork Warboss on Warbike
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All im gonna say is the police always turn the news to make them look good. You guys should understand that police always lie and turn things to there advantage im not saying that all cops are evil i have friends who are cops who tell me that they are sick of the crazy Dystopia style of government
For example a disturbed veteran was living in my neighborhood he allegedly hit his wife which was called in. He being disturbed believed the cops were going to kill him so he barricaded himself in his attic.
Now this is where it gets tricky: In the article the cops threw "three" flash bang grenades to keep him awake (It was a stand off for 6 hours) After that the brought in a army of cops who closed off my street and waited. Sadly the man shot himself and the cops found him dead. It the article NEVER brings up how he is a VET that was suffering from PDS.
That was the article.
My neighbors and I have another story where ever thirty minutes the cops threw in a flash bang LITERALLY ALL NIGHT They busted down the door with APC And finally found his remains. Imagine you are scarred alone in your attic and you don't know it but your a little insane because the sacrifices you made for your country and now the only choice you have is go with these thugs who you are convinced are going to kill you or start a battle with them or take your own life... What do you do?
And the news didn't say anything about it MY whole NEIGHBORHOOD was pissed THE WIFE WAS PISSED because we knew this guy and was sorry for him! A VETERAN! What really bothers me is the had no negotiator just his mom called him begging him to leave....
Police State maybe?
My point is we don't know the whole story its like playing telephone what we get is a disfigured lie. I found a funny meme where is says "cop in america shoots a kid in the head for charging him, Meanwhile guy with a cleaver charges cop in Germany and cops shoot him in the leg and DOSE NOT kill him"
Why do our cops shoot to kill you ask? Well simple because they don't want to get sued... THAT'S messed up
Getting off my box now.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/08/11 18:24:23
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No, that's actually a separate city in Illinois. This is actually north of Saint Louis.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/08/11 18:33:50
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5th God of Chaos! (Yea'rly!)
The Great State of Texas
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Thanks MB
We have two separate issues here.
1. the shooting.
2. The shooting as an excuse to go steal stuff in the form of a "riot." Automatically Appended Next Post: zombiekila707 wrote:All im gonna say is the police always turn the news to make them look good. You guys should understand that police always lie and turn things to there advantage im not saying that all cops are evil i have friends who are cops who tell me that they are sick of the crazy Dystopia style of government
For example a disturbed veteran was living in my neighborhood he allegedly hit his wife which was called in. He being disturbed believed the cops were going to kill him so he barricaded himself in his attic.
Now this is where it gets tricky: In the article the cops threw "three" flash bang grenades to keep him awake (It was a stand off for 6 hours) After that the brought in a army of cops who closed off my street and waited. Sadly the man shot himself and the cops found him dead. It the article NEVER brings up how he is a VET that was suffering from PDS.
That was the article.
My neighbors and I have another story where ever thirty minutes the cops threw in a flash bang LITERALLY ALL NIGHT They busted down the door with APC And finally found his remains. Imagine you are scarred alone in your attic and you don't know it but your a little insane because the sacrifices you made for your country and now the only choice you have is go with these thugs who you are convinced are going to kill you or start a battle with them or take your own life... What do you do?
And the news didn't say anything about it MY whole NEIGHBORHOOD was pissed THE WIFE WAS PISSED because we knew this guy and was sorry for him! A VETERAN! What really bothers me is the had no negotiator just his mom called him begging him to leave....
Police State maybe?
My point is we don't know the whole story its like playing telephone what we get is a disfigured lie. I found a funny meme where is says "cop in america shoots a kid in the head for charging him, Meanwhile guy with a cleaver charges cop in Germany and cops shoot him in the leg and DOSE NOT kill him"
Why do our cops shoot to kill you ask? Well simple because they don't want to get sued... THAT'S messed up
Getting off my box now.
 him. Hit your wife and you deserve to die in a fire.
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-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
-"Don't mind Frazzled. He's just Dakka's crazy old dude locked in the attic. He's harmless. Mostly."
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/08/11 18:46:27
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Calling people animals, even if you disagree with them, isn't acceptable on Dakka, and certainly not as a thread title.
Locking unless there is a good reason to reopen, in which case, PM me...
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