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So I'm using my serpent spam eldar backed up by wraithknights. I am stuck between 3 potential lists all are similar it's just deciding which is best against the current meta.

List 1
HQ
Spiritseer

TROOPS
5 avengers
Serpent, twin scatter, holo shurican cannon

5 avengers
Serpent, twin scatter, holo shurican cannon

5 avengers
Serpent, twin scatter, holo shurican cannon

5 wraithguard
Serpent, twin scatter, holo shurican cannon

FAST ATTACK
Crimson hunter

HEAVY SUPPORT
Wraithknight

Wraithknight

List 2
HQ
Spiritseer

TROOPS
5 avengers
Serpent, twin scatter, holo

5 avengers
Serpent, twin scatter, holo

5 avengers
Serpent, twin scatter, holo

5 avengers
Serpent, twin scatter, holo

HEAVY SUPPORT
Wraithknight

Wraithknight

Wraithknight
Sun cannon, scatter laser

List 3
HQ
Spiritseer

TROOPS
5 avengers
Serpent, twin scatter, holo

5 avengers
Serpent, twin scatter, holo

5 avengers
Serpent, twin scatter, holo

5 avengers
Serpent, twin scatter, holo

5 wraithguard
Serpent, twin scatter, holo

HEAVY SUPPORT
Wraithknight

Wraithknight

There's the three lists to choose from I personally think 2 and 3 are the better choices. Please leave comments on which list to bring and if you see any alterations that could improve the lists. I am willing to spend money if models are required to make it better or more flavourful.

Is the GT using maelstrom objectives? If so I prefer;

spirit seer

5 avengers, scatter
5 avengers, scatter
5 avengers, scatter
5 avengers, scatter
jetbikes
jetbikes

wraithknight
wraithknight
wraithknight

It is and yeah that list looks great apart from no holos is bad you go from a 3 in 2 chance of negating shots to a 1 in 2.

djn wrote:
Is the GT using maelstrom objectives? If so I prefer;

spirit seer

5 avengers, scatter
5 avengers, scatter
5 avengers, scatter
5 avengers, scatter
jetbikes
jetbikes

wraithknight
wraithknight
wraithknight

Change spirit seer for autarch, helps with reserve rolls for the jet bikes, and the spirit seer really adds nothing to the list besides a cheap hq (with the autarch adds also) .

I wouldn't run that particular list as it doesn't have holo fields which help a ton with survivability.

Well, I'd opt for list 3.

Yeah that's what I'm thinking but the idea of 3 wk's is quite crazy.

I like list one

List 2, probably. But I think I would drop one Serpent in favour of a Farseer on Jetbike w/ mantle and spirit stones as well as wings of faolchu for the Spiritseer (who will be the warlord).

Now your Warlord contributes to the battle from t1 with power dice, and can jump out, psychic shriek someone (or maybe even invis) and then run the hell away. The Farseer can be a real nuisance in several ways; picking up maelstrom points, invising stuff, shrouding stuff, shrieking stuff, taking objectives, guiding/presciensing knights, linebreaker, etc. All while being super hard to kill with shooting (at least for most units) and -not- being the warlord, which allows you sacrifice him without it being too much of a drawback.

I've just begun playtesting something similar for an upcoming tournament, and it's been holding up quite well against very good opponents.

I just think I prefer list 3 the more serpents and objective secured helps with the modified maelstrom.

bobmgee wrote:
I just think I prefer list 3 the more serpents and objective secured helps with the modified maelstrom.

Good decision. Good luck!