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I'm slightely obsessed with A Song of Ice and Fire also known as Game of Thrones and I've been noticing connections between 40k characters and characters in ASoIaF/GoT such as...
Kaldor Draigo - Khal Drogo (both warriors and leaders)
Huron Blackheart - Euron Greyjoy (both pirates)
Vargard Obyron - Oberyn Martell (both use spears/scythes very well and represent their leaders)

What do you think of these, and have you picked up on any other references to/influences from other fiction in 40k?

Lets try to avoid plot spoilers though

Most 40k fluff connections are to *WAY* older material, Huron actually dates back to the early 90's.

There's tons of references and visual inspirations from stuff like Judge Dredd, Dune, Heavy Metal, Starship Troopers, Aliens, etc

I know part of the HH series pays homage to Rendezvous With Rama, in the part where they assault the cylindrical alien ship. Not sure if anyone else caught that as some of these referenced are from very old science fiction.

I mean Marbo, cruel ela devil (however you spelt it) And various other things where "Borrowed" from all over.

(then they claim its a 100% original idea. Do not steal)

As Vaktathi said, all of these things are simply coincidental.

Not that I don't think that 40K writers don't also read GRRM's novels (he writes more than SoIaF), but, in most cases, if 40K is inspired by/influenced by another source, there's a nod to it, or they bear some sort of similarity.

Yeh, if you look hard enough and long enough, you can draw parallels to pretty much anything. It believe it is mostly coincidental.

I'm convinced that the Imperial Knights in the present form are inspired somewhat by GoT.
not directly copied but I definatly got some vibes from the Imperial Knight Novella. I mean... they actually have a scene where two knights are issued orders, Sir Gregor, and Sir Martin (they both apparently die )

Just an FYI game of thrones was released in '93 I believe.

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Kaldor Draigo - Khal Drogo (both warriors and leaders)

I would think that it's more likely that both GW and GRRM are drawing on the same inspiration - medieval French and British history - when it comes to the idea and depiction of knights (IIRC, the GoT series began as "The Wars of the Roses, with dragons").

Also, just bcause there's a possible reference in a character's name, doesn't mean it goes any deeper.

Desubot, I doubt that. I'm sure the writers will admit to taking inspiration from other sources. Everyone does. The end product is a different matter.

 Remulus wrote:
So yea pretty much this.
Though, I did note the sudden emphasis of houses in the Imperial Knight Codex.

If you go back to the original IK fluff (from the late 80's I think?) there was a strong emphasis on houses back then as well.

They obviously expanded it a lot as they had to go much more in depth to write a whole damned codex on them, but the houses were always a large art of Imperial Knights.

AllSeeingSkink wrote:

 Remulus wrote:
So yea pretty much this.
Though, I did note the sudden emphasis of houses in the Imperial Knight Codex.

If you go back to the original IK fluff (from the late 80's I think?) there was a strong emphasis on houses back then as well.

They obviously expanded it a lot as they had to go much more in depth to write a whole damned codex on them, but the houses were always a large art of Imperial Knights.

I have emailed GW about this use of the word houses. GRRM will shortly get a cease and desist. Alan Merritt has personally attested to the fact that GW independently came up with the word in question during a meeting in the early eighties.

Kinda off but the Blue Matriarch in Lilo and Stitch who led the Federation was an obvious Tau. Blue, had hooves, the whole diplomacy thing, using other alien species and stuff, etc...

Marbo is blatantly Sean Bean. Uber awsome warrior who dies in every battle then comes back as another hero to boss the enemy all over again, before being run off a cliff by a herd of cows... definitely Marbo!


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In fact, isnt Sean Bean intellectual property of GW too? They definitely have a model of him in their LotR collection...

Poly Ranger wrote:
Marbo is blatantly Sean Bean. Uber awsome warrior who dies in every battle then comes back as another hero to boss the enemy all over again, before being run off a cliff by a herd of cows... definitely Marbo!


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In fact, isnt Sean Bean intellectual property of GW too? They definitely have a model of him in their LotR collection...

I now have a sudden desire to use that mini to ktibash a space Marine sean bean

BrianDavion wrote:

Poly Ranger wrote:
Marbo is blatantly Sean Bean. Uber awsome warrior who dies in every battle then comes back as another hero to boss the enemy all over again, before being run off a cliff by a herd of cows... definitely Marbo!


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In fact, isnt Sean Bean intellectual property of GW too? They definitely have a model of him in their LotR collection...

I now have a sudden desire to use that mini to ktibash a space Marine sean bean

He is no Space Marine, he is a Guardsman threw and threw