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So here is my last list:
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/605585.page
I am trying for something that hits hard and fast but the previous incarnation had some pretty big problems. Here is a second attempt which so far has performed much better

CAD 1
Warboss (Warlord) - Bike, PK, Finking cap 120
Painboy - Bike 75

3x Meganobz - Bosspole, Trukk- Ram 160
12x Tankbustaz -Trukk, Ram 191
12x Tankbustaz (they will go in a Battlewagon) 156

10x Grots 35
10x Grots 35

4x Warbikers - Nob -Bosspole PK 130

Battlewagon -Ram, 1x Rokkit, Boarding plank
Battlewagon -Ram, 1x Rokkit

CAD 2
Warboss -Mega armor, Lucky Stikks 125
Big mek -Bike, KFF, Blitzbike 120

11 Boyz -Nob, Bosspole, PK Trukk-Ram 147
17 Boyz -Nob, Bosspole, PK 148 (They are joined by the Megaboss in a Battlewagon)


Total 1697
Which leaves me with 153 points or I could drop the PK for a big choppa on the large boy unit (as they are accompanied by the Megaboss) which would leave me with 173points

Any input as to what I should do with those points?

Too few bikers to justify adding a painboy in there.

I agree other than that good list, possibly swap normal bikers for nob bikers?


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Possibly drop the kff big mek your paying a lot of points for a 5++ when should have a adequate cover save anyway and you can always jink your better off investing those points in more bikes or upgrading to nob bikerz

That's a good point on the painboy, those 75 points are alot. I Have 150-170 spare points.. Do I add bikes to the unit or remove the painboy and build a shooting base at the back?

The KFF mek is there to give a save to the vehicles when I don't get first turn or when I have to wait in the middle of the board. The bikes don't need the 5++
Nob bikers are also fantastically expensive so I'll pass on them :-)

Waaaargh, Da Orks!!! You heads gu right on top of me pointy stick. Dats an honor dat is!

Do you really need two Warbosses? You could drop one and use those points elsewhere as well. Maybe more bikes or more boys or whatever.

I agree with dropping the KFF. I would also drop the pk for a BC for the nob going with the MAWB. Use the points saved for rokkit buggies to screen the trukks and more bikers. You could swap the tankbuster trill unit for another MANZ unit to save more points.

drop the painboy and use the spare points for either more bikes.. or a secod squad of bikes to ride right long with with mek

So everyone thinks the biker unit is bloatted..
The Warboss and the Nob are there to do damage, the painboy adds survivability and the Mek is there to support the rest of the army.

2 ideas:
I drop the painboy and add 4 more bikers
the fill out the list with 5 lootas and 3 KMK mek gunz

I just get more bikes, give the mek a claw and split them into two units
Warboss, Nob with choppa 6 Bikers

Big mek, Nob with choppa 6 Bikers