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So I recently found out that the Emperor is a dying decaying mess. I don't know if there are books detailing the fight with him and horus.

From what I gathered, he lost some limbs and psychically killed horus.

Ok, so I thought the emperor is a perpetual? No one else knows this? If he dies, can he then regenerate his body?

Guess I just want to know where I can find details on his status other than 40k wiki's

The Horus Heresy novel series. There's, like, 40 of them now. They have not gotten to the end of the Siege of Terra yet, so there is not yet a detailed battle between him and Horus.

Ok, so I thought the emperor is a perpetual? No one else knows this? If he dies, can he then regenerate his body?

No one knows. The Imperium can't risk it, because if they're wrong, and he can't, then they're fethed. It also adds to the grim-darkness... but it should also be pointed out that "perpetuals" are a fairly new thing introduced to the setting, and the Emperor's story has existed, as is currently understood, since 3rd Edition (in prior editions, he was still walking around... sort of.).

Even if he does come back his temporary absence will really mess things up because all long distance travel will stop. Imagine if for one day all vehicles moving over 20mph exploded. It wouldn't last long but it would still mess things up massively. Hence the risk of letting the Big E die.

It would be ironic, and totally Grimdark, if they reached him after the duel and saved him by interring him in the Golden Throne just before he had chance to die, and by keeping him half alive are preventing him from regenerating.

That is, I suspect, the case (because it is ironic and grimdark) but, on the other hand, he was conscious and speaking before his internment. He told them to put him there, as a matter of fact, not "No, let me die, I'll be back in a jiffy".

The Emprah is Schrödinger's perpetual. You don't know whether he will regenerate or not until you kill him to check.

Johnnytorrance wrote:
So I recently found out that the Emperor is a dying decaying mess. I don't know if there are books detailing the fight with him and horus.

From what I gathered, he lost some limbs and psychically killed horus.

Ok, so I thought the emperor is a perpetual? No one else knows this? If he dies, can he then regenerate his body?

Guess I just want to know where I can find details on his status other than 40k wiki's

The other peeps nailed it, we really just don't know. I think they are trying to finish the HH series in the next 5 years, so sit back and enjoy the speculation ride!

Maybe The Emperor is a time-lord, in which case he'd have to be The Doctor and he used his last regeneration turning in to Peter Capaldi. Either that or he's The Master, can probably still regenerate and he's taken over the galaxy.

Although I started writing this as a joke its starting to sound strangely Plausible.

That is sure sign of Heresy. Report to your local Arbites station for summary incineration.

In the old Lost and Damned story it explained that the Emperor battled Horus both in the physical realm and the immaterium, and than Horus wounded him badly in both. So bad in fact, that the Emperor's soul was disconnected from his body and he cannot resurrect in his current state, and that is where the Star Child prophecy comes into play. The Emperor realized this and had them connect his body to the Golden Throne because his soul could still use it as a sort of conduit to interact with the physical realm.

This could very well be retconned as we go through the HH novels though.

I just started reading the HH novels, it is rather annoying that after 25 books. You still can't get to the final battle

The HH series has already seen one Perpetual "lose" his Perpetual-ness. Who's to say that the conflict with Horus wasn't so brutal that the ability to return from death wasn't simply beaten out of the Emperor?

Taffy17 wrote:
Maybe The Emperor is a time-lord, in which case he'd have to be The Doctor and he used his last regeneration turning in to Peter Capaldi. Either that or he's The Master, can probably still regenerate and he's taken over the galaxy.

Although I started writing this as a joke its starting to sound strangely Plausible.

Xyptc wrote:
The HH series has already seen one Perpetual "lose" his Perpetual-ness. Who's to say that the conflict with Horus wasn't so brutal that the ability to return from death wasn't simply beaten out of the Emperor?

Indeed, In fact Ollanius Pius in the HH series could be fated to essentially be "red shirted" being killed to show us how the monster works..

It's all confused and uncertain of course. One can only speculate, and to me that's the good of the fluff. I hope they'll never give out too much details to the main misteries of the WH40k galaxy, and especially on The Emperor.

Personally, I'm in love with the idea of the Golden Throne keeping him imprisoned on purpose, by the will of the High Lords, not allowing him to completely reincarnate or regenerate. The greatest leader the humanity ever had (at least in the eyes of his people), the only one capable of guiding humanity to triumph, reduced to an involuntary beacon of light in an eternity of oblivion, while stagnation is slowly consuming his Imperium.. you can't go much more grimdark than this.

 Psienesis wrote:
That is, I suspect, the case (because it is ironic and grimdark) but, on the other hand, he was conscious and speaking before his internment. He told them to put him there, as a matter of fact, not "No, let me die, I'll be back in a jiffy".

I thought him going into the Throne was to kind of save his life but wasn't also that they needed a new psyker battery because Malcador was used up in it? So maybe isn't that the Emperor needed it to sustain his life but his other battery (Magnus) turned traitor and an ordinary human couldn't suffice.