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Struggling on which list to take to the nova open. Figured I'd try here to get an opinion.

Kairos Fateweaver

Heralds of Chaos
• Herald of Tzeentch: Psyker (Mastery Level 3); Exalted Reward; Disc of Tzeentch
• Herald of Tzeentch: Psyker (Mastery Level 3); Disc of Tzeentch
• Herald of Tzeentch: Psyker (Mastery Level 3); Disc of Tzeentch

3 Nurgling Swarm
3 Nurgling Swarms
3 Nurgling Swarms
3 Nurgling Swarms

9 Screamers of Tzeentch

Lord of Fate Daemon Prince: Psyker (Mastery Level 3); Lesser Reward; 2× Greater Reward; daemonic flight; Warp-forged Armour

Be'lakor

3 Nurgling Swarms

1,845 points

Or

Necron Overlord: warscythe; mindshackle scarabs; sempiternal weave; phase shifter
• Catacomb Command Barge
• 1 Cryptek: Harbinger of the Storm

Necron Overlord: warscythe; mindshackle scarabs; sempiternal weave; phase shifter
• Catacomb Command Barge
• 1 Cryptek: Harbinger of the Storm

5 Necron Warriors
• Night Scythe
5 Necron Warriors
• Night Scythe
5 Necron Warriors
• Night Scythe
5 Necron Warriors
• Night Scythe

Annihilation Barge
Annihilation Barge

Autarch: fusion gun

5 Dire Avengers
• Wave Serpent: twin-linked scatter laser
5 Dire Avengers
• Wave Serpent: twin-linked scatter laser

1,850 points

Demon list is a summoning list. Only problem with that list is time.

Let know what you guys think.
Thanks.

Both are nasty lists.

As one of your potential opponents I can say both lists are quite good, but the decision is a no brainer for me.


I feel your Daemon List is stronger, but you won't finish your games and that is a crap shoot. Strong ObSec lists will nab the objectives and end the game after four due to time. Daemons list won't stop that. Also, you'll struggle to snatch turn by turn objectives as well. The ScreamerStar lost it's bite, too many resources devoted for it at NOVA and it may turn into a liability.


Necron/Eldar list is much more consistent, still very very good. Good ObSec, strong in objectives, and tesla still rocks. CCB Lords are great, even if NOVA FAQed them to be reasonable.


I say, run the Necron/Eldar list.

Yeah; I agree with Zagman. You've got less variables with the Necron list. Also, your brain and lower back will hurt less throughout the weekend.

2 votes for Crondar.

Thanks guys. I was leaning towards the Crondar. I'm playing one last timed practice game with the demons tonight. If I can cut my time down I may bring them. Hope to see you there. I'll be one of the guys wearing an Icehouse Warriors shirt.

I'll be the big guy walking around wearing Superman shirts with the White Farsight Enclave.

Good luck getting the times of your Daemons down, but you also have to account for an opponent having a slower list as well so you have to be able to play faster than half time with your list.

I also vote list 2, but I would suggest something.
You already have plenty of strength 6-7 with barges and scythes, so I feel you have that covered. I would trade one wave serpent (and the autarchs fusion gun, along with whatever necron upgrades you can spend) for a wraithknight. High damage saturation, and adds some anti av 14.

I know I would be scared to see 2 command barges and a wraith knight thundering down the field at me.

I disagree, I think 2 more Stormteks would be a super cheap way to shore up AT; although I don't know where you'd find it. Ninja did hit on one thing though, without a mantle or jetbike, the Autarch seems neutered. So HQ could use some attention. I'll open it to the field because I'm not an Eldar expert, what should he do about the Eldar HQ?

 The Shrike wrote:
I disagree, I think 2 more Stormteks would be a super cheap way to shore up AT; although I don't know where you'd find it. Ninja did hit on one thing though, without a mantle or jetbike, the Autarch seems neutered. So HQ could use some attention. I'll open it to the field because I'm not an Eldar expert, what should he do about the Eldar HQ?

In a serpent with no upgrades they can be fine. For eldar HQs to work, you need to have more units for the farseers to buff. Having a cheap hq to take the other stuff can work if you dont have many points to work with.

Alright. I played one last practice game with demons last night. My opponent was playing the skyblight Nids list. We were playing the mission "Gamblers and Investors". I chose investors and he chose gambler. Once again the game only went 4 turns. Although I think last night was less of my fault than my opponents. We were in the bottom of turn 4 (his turn) with 28 minutes remaining. He didn't finish his turn until there were only 12 minutes left. I pulled out the win by using good positioning at the end with my obsec units.

So, still can't finish games. I'm probably going with Crondar.

I only had the Autarch in the list as a cheap HQ choice. I put the fusion gun on him because I had 10 points left.

Again, thanks for the input guys.

 Franks1313 wrote:
Alright. I played one last practice game with demons last night. My opponent was playing the skyblight Nids list. We were playing the mission "Gamblers and Investors". I chose investors and he chose gambler. Once again the game only went 4 turns. Although I think last night was less of my fault than my opponents. We were in the bottom of turn 4 (his turn) with 28 minutes remaining. He didn't finish his turn until there were only 12 minutes left. I pulled out the win by using good positioning at the end with my obsec units.

So, still can't finish games. I'm probably going with Crondar.

I only had the Autarch in the list as a cheap HQ choice. I put the fusion gun on him because I had 10 points left.

Again, thanks for the input guys.

That's not shocking. I think your best bet is the Crondar. If BAO is any indication we'll see a strong ObSec presence and that makes trying to steal a 4 turn game with a Summoning list extraordinarily difficult to accomplish.

Look forward to seeing you at NOVA.