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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/08/24 04:20:01
Subject: A Tutorial: How To Revive Dead Citadel Paints
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This will work with any dried paint unless it's so dry you can't stick your fingernail into it. Add a tiny amount of water, just a teensy weeny bit, then stir, and stir, and stir. Stir for a minute, then shake for ten minutes. If it's too dry, then keep shaking every day for as long as possible until completely dissolved. This actually works, and I know people say it's acrylic and can' t be turned back, but I've tried it and I've had lots of success. All hail to eternal emperor if mankind!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/08/24 04:38:15
Subject: Re:A Tutorial: How To Revive Dead Citadel Paints
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Blood Angel Terminator with Lightning Claws
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I've seen one of these once... Automatically Appended Next Post: Hobby Paint Shaker...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/08/24 08:17:08
Subject: A Tutorial: How To Revive Dead Citadel Paints
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Boosting Ultramarine Biker
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Instead of water use acrylic medium works much better. Also stir with a cocktail stick or one thing similar
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/08/24 08:26:16
Subject: A Tutorial: How To Revive Dead Citadel Paints
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As long as the acrylic hasn't cross linked, you can put it back into solution by adding solvent (water).
If it has cross linked though, you won't be able to bring it back around without some chemistry. Small amounts of ammonia can break the chain without causing significant damage to the pigments. This can soften it enough that you can add something like a thin binder (Future for example) and then reconstitute it that way.
Once you have done your work though and it is completely mixed - you will want to go ahead and strain the paint to remove all the chunks of acrylic that had cured and were not broken down again.
While you are at it - put it in a bottle that doesn't suck so that it doesn't end up drying out prematurely again (still have some old Partha Paints that are in good condition...from a company that went out of business over 15 years ago...).
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Granted, all of that said - unless I were attached to a specific paint for some odd reason, time/money = buy new bottle of paint. My time is worth significantly more than the cost of a bottle of new paint...even at the prices that GW charges. It takes a fair amount of effort to get the paint back in working condition, and other than the academic challenge of doing it a few times...it really isn't worth while to me.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/08/24 16:40:51
Subject: A Tutorial: How To Revive Dead Citadel Paints
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Huge Hierodule
The centre of a massive brood chamber, heaving and pulsating.
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Tamiya Paint Thinner.
Add a bit. Mix. Shake. Bam. Good as new.
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buddha wrote:I've decided that these GW is dead/dying threads that pop up every-week must be followers and cultists of nurgle perpetuating the need for decay. I therefore declare that that such threads are heresy and subject to exterminatus. So says the Inquisition! |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/08/24 17:34:57
Subject: A Tutorial: How To Revive Dead Citadel Paints
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Tamiya Paint thinner is a lacquer thinner base (not hardware store - melt plastic strength...but much stronger than most acrylic "thinners"). Does the same thing as a bit of ammonia in terms of breaking the polymer chains which may have began the crosslinking process.
You still do need to watch the overall balance between useable binder and unusable pigment/fillers. The semi-cured acrylic effectively becomes a filler as opposed to a binder and that can lead to adhesion issues if they become too far gone.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/08/24 18:07:48
Subject: Re:A Tutorial: How To Revive Dead Citadel Paints
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/08/24 18:18:27
Subject: A Tutorial: How To Revive Dead Citadel Paints
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See if you can get a cheap (or used) vortex mixer.
Probably the best $100 I ever spent. Works well enough for dropper bottles, takes a bit of practice to get the right angle with the various wider bottomed paint pots.
They are designed to last for years of use in lab environments.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/08/24 19:52:07
Subject: A Tutorial: How To Revive Dead Citadel Paints
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Huge Hierodule
The centre of a massive brood chamber, heaving and pulsating.
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Sean_OBrien wrote:Tamiya Paint thinner is a lacquer thinner base (not hardware store - melt plastic strength...but much stronger than most acrylic "thinners"). Does the same thing as a bit of ammonia in terms of breaking the polymer chains which may have began the crosslinking process.
You still do need to watch the overall balance between useable binder and unusable pigment/fillers. The semi-cured acrylic effectively becomes a filler as opposed to a binder and that can lead to adhesion issues if they become too far gone.
Hmm, interesting. That explains a lot.
(It is really, really good though- I had some ancient Skull White that had basically turned into paste. White seems to be the worst when it comes to paint going off. Mixed in a bit of thinner and it was good as new.)
It's also good as a low-tech (but slow) paint stripper- soak some tissue/cotton wool in the stuff and you can use it to rub away paint. I suppose it's basically fairly weak solvent after all.
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buddha wrote:I've decided that these GW is dead/dying threads that pop up every-week must be followers and cultists of nurgle perpetuating the need for decay. I therefore declare that that such threads are heresy and subject to exterminatus. So says the Inquisition! |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/08/24 21:01:25
Subject: A Tutorial: How To Revive Dead Citadel Paints
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Grizzled Space Wolves Great Wolf
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I've had good luck with Vallejo Airbrush Cleaner for paints that look really bad. Though I don't add enough to get them back to the correct consistency, just enough to soften the block up and then I use a thinner or some water to get it back to good.
I've never had much luck with water when the paint is really bad, but maybe it's just because I'm too lazy to work at it.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/08/27 10:48:31
Subject: Re:A Tutorial: How To Revive Dead Citadel Paints
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Kelly502 wrote:I've seen one of these once...
Automatically Appended Next Post:
Hobby Paint Shaker...
What?! That is just awesome!
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Adepta Sororitas: 3,800 Points
Adeptus Custodes: 8,100 Points
Adeptus Mechanicus: 8,400 Points
Alpha Legion: 4,400 Points
Astra Militarum: 7,500 Points
Dark Angels: 16,800 Points
Imperial Knights: 12,500 Points
Legio Titanicus: 5,500 Points
Slaaneshi Daemons: 3,800 Points
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