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Hey everyone, i recently had a very odd idea, in that i should start orks, as my 2nd army, but, since funds are a bit up and down lately, i will probably have to wait a little while. Anyways, if i DO decide that orks would be the 2nd choice for me, then i was planning on using gretchins, and squigs as a large part of the army, but, i am not yet sure, it would mostly be an army that rushes in, then starts to blow everything up, and shoot anything in sight, anyways, like i mentioned b4, i am not yet sure on what i want to do with a 2nd army choice, since it is still between tyranids, orks, grey knights, and maybe eldar.

Thank you for any ideas! budget lists would be nice as well if any available for orks, or the other armies mentioned. Thanks!

The issue is, Gretchen are sub par, and there are no squigs in 40k outside of Bomb squigs (Which aren't a unit, just an upgrade) and Squiggoths which are FW only. If you're starting Orks only for Gretchen and Squigs, you're better off with Fantasy and using Goblins and Squigs that way :(

Balderdash.

Gretchin in Mek Gunz are amazing. Gretchin by themselves are the best little objective holders in the universe.

And I have a whole swarm of squigs and runtherds that I just say "This is a unit of choppa sluggas boyz" and nobody has an issue with it.

I will say though and I'm not sure if this is still the case that the old box set "Black Reach" included a freaking ton of ork boyz and they went for very cheap on eBay. My ork army was constructed by buying a 50$ bucket of ork bits on eBay then around 200 BR ork boys models for 50 cents apiece on average. From that I got Lootas, Burnas, Tankbustas, Commandos and shoota and sluggas boyz. Wonderfully cheap way to start an army.

Gretchin are everything but "great".

They die when shot, they die when assaulted, they die someones looks funny at them. Outside of freak accidents, they are never going to kill anything.

Every unit in the codex is better at scoring objectives, and objective secured means little to nothing when anything that comes within 3" might as well take the time to murder them in combat. Not to mention that you get a fast objective secured vehicle with a rokkit for 5 points less for every boyz mob you take.

The only reason to pick gretchin in 7th is to unlock more detachments for as little points as possible. So if your main appeal for orks was fielding a gretchin army... you should either look elsewhere, or build yourself a gertchin counts-as-AM-army.

I second Jidmah's opinion, with the added fact that a line of gretchin in front of orks does also make for a useful 5+ cover save if you don't have enough Pain Boys.