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Battle-forged.

3x of the Assassinorum Execution Force Formations.
1 additional Vindicare
1 additional Callidus

This is a total of 4 Vindicare, 4 Callidus, 3 Eversor, and 3 Culexus Assassins, at 2005pts.
The models in the formation have Preferred Enemy Warlord, so it should be pretty easy to get First Blood Warlord with the Vindicares.
It's important to go first, since the Callidus Polymorphine protection doesn't work if you go second.

Thoughts?

All I can say is your 5 points over.

That's what, 15 wounds in total?

You'll get first blood (if you go first), but you're likely to get tabled in Turn 1 or 2.

I like it you should definitely run this.

14 models. 14x3 = 42 wounds.

Why not just drop down the extra callidus to an extra eversor instead? Then you are 5 points under rather than 5 points over.




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This list is totally dependent on terrain. If you play on the open plains you are screwed. If you play in a cityscape you have the advantage. Mass MC lists may prove an issue, as will flyers.

Poly Ranger wrote:

Why not just drop down the extra callidus to an extra eversor instead? Then you are 5 points under rather than 5 points over.

Good idea! But I'll switch for a Culexus, and be spot on. The Culexus is more survivable than the Eversor, though the Eversor is better at mobs.

The point of this list is, obviously, pure silliness. Of course it'll have trouble against MCs, and especially Flyers in general. I just think it'd be fun to read my list to my opponent, and have him look at me blankly and say, "Wait--what?"


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 TheNightWillEnd wrote:
That's what, 15 wounds in total?

You'll get first blood (if you go first), but you're likely to get tabled in Turn 1 or 2.

This sounds like you haven't read Dataslate Assassins. They're surprisingly survivable, with a 4++ and 3W, and two of them have some variation of a "Can't Touch This " rule.

It would certainly be funny to see their expression!

Its gona be tough when you dont go first or run into servo skulls


But that would be one heck of an alpha with a mob of cali girls mob flaming a few troops with follow up Cluxus and Evisors while the vindis are in the back popping a tank or 3 a turn. if you have em do it and tell us how it goes

I may have to proxy this and try it. Sounds very fun to watch, please if anyone does it link the battle report here!

With the amount of S6-7 shooting in the game and with all of your models being T3; only one shot needs to get through your pseudo-invisible, 4++ wall. Instant death awaits you.

I mean, it'd be fun...?

This isn't how Assassins are really envisioned. If you want to go assassin heavy, bring 2 Cullexus and 2 Vindicares supported by the rest of an Imperial faction.

 The Shrike wrote:
With the amount of S6-7 shooting in the game and with all of your models being T3; only one shot needs to get through your pseudo-invisible, 4++ wall. Instant death awaits you.

I mean, it'd be fun...?

This isn't how Assassins are really envisioned. If you want to go assassin heavy, bring 2 Cullexus and 2 Vindicares supported by the rest of an Imperial faction.

You should read the Assassin Dataslate before voicing opinions. They're T4.

Feel free to try again, though!

 Elric Greywolf wrote:

 The Shrike wrote:
With the amount of S6-7 shooting in the game and with all of your models being T3; only one shot needs to get through your pseudo-invisible, 4++ wall. Instant death awaits you.

I mean, it'd be fun...?

This isn't how Assassins are really envisioned. If you want to go assassin heavy, bring 2 Cullexus and 2 Vindicares supported by the rest of an Imperial faction.

You should read the Assassin Dataslate before voicing opinions. They're T4.

Feel free to try again, though!

Fair enough on the burn, but I don't think it changes much. T4 is pretty laughable - and even if your opponent doesn't instadeath you with S8+, you're going to go down pretty quick to any massed fire. I.e. bolters. It's a nice idea, but assassins by themselves won't really impress.

Don't know if it is 'good', but is seems like it might be fun.

SKIP TO BELOW THE LINE FOR THE OUTCOME

Played a game with this last night.
The Scouring, Vanguard deployment.

I had 4 Vindicare, 4 Culexus, 3 Eversor, 3 Callidus.
My opponent had 2 Hammerheads with Longstrike, 2 Piranhas, 2 Broadsides with 4 Shield Drones, 1 full FW squad, 1 full Pathfinder with all the goodies, 3 Stealth suits with a few drones, 1 full Pathfinder bare, a Bomber, and his Crisis Warlord with three Suits for company.

He rolled to go first. Objectives were scattered across the whole board, with both 3's solidly on my side, the 4 and a 2 on his side, and the 1 and a 2 in the middle.
He deployed fairly scrunched up in his corner. I think he was counting on FB and Warlord, and holding his two objectives for the win.
I camped the Vindicares in some ruins on my side, holding the 3's, with good LoS to the whole field.
Two Callidus hid out of LoS in a ruin in his deployment. The other sat up next to the Stealth Team.
One Eversor and a Culexus hid out of LoS, ready to move up on the FW/Pathfinder group that were prepared to claim #4. Another Eversor sat on #1, out of LoS, which was close enough to #4 that he could charge out if/when the Crisis Suits Deep Striked down onto it. Another Culexus was by the Eversor, but in plain view, also ready to charge #4. (I depended pretty heavily on Etherium throughout the game, and it paid off.) The final Eversor sat 12" away from the Stealth Team, ready to either support the Vindicares against the Crisis Suits, or move up to claim an objective. The final Culexus sat 18" away from a Pathfinder team, who had a good view of center field.

I managed to Seize with the Callidus, making my conservative deployment slightly problematic. I would've done much better with the Callidus templates if I had known I would go first. The weakness with the Callidus is that her Polymorph only works on the GAME turn she comes in, rather than the following Player turn. This means that, if you go second, they'll get a full round of full-BS shooting before you can charge.
Anyhow, everything surged forward. Callidus moved toward Broadsides. Callidus and Culexus surrounded Pathfinders. Eversor and Culexus moved up on FW/Paths. Callidus waved and smiled as she threw off her Stealth Suit armour and pulled out a Neural Shredder. I killed a few Pathfinders with the Callidus template, a few Stealths with the template, a few FW with the Culexus guns. (I rolled a 6 for Power of the Warp, and so had 6 shots from two assassins.) I then got First Blood with the Vindicares. First shot at not-Longstrike and managed to explode it! (I won't expect that as a rule, but still quite a good first outing). The other three shot at Longstrike and caused one HP. S10 Ignores Cover is really just fantastic, especially when you've got four of them. Not quite as dramatic as the old 4D6 pens...but the Ignores Cover more than makes up for that.

Most of my stuff was in the open at this point, but also most of it had psuedo-Invisibility for protection.
He didn't move much, except to scrunch up the wounded Pathfinders so my template could get even more hits next round. The Piranhas dropped back to shoot at a Callidus.
Then there was LOTS of shooting. He killed an Eversor (FWs and Pathfinders both had to fire at him, and I forgot I had FnP), gave two wounds to the Broadside Callidus, gave two wound to a Culexus, and that was that. It was about statistically what you'd expect...but it wasn't enough.

Callidus flamed Pathfinders again, killing a few more, and she and Culexus charged into them. It was overkill, but they definitely wiped the squad, both consolidating toward his backfield.
Callidus flamed Stealth suits, missing all the 4+ wounds, and charged. Killed all but one, and Swept that survivor.
Culexus moved up on FW, killed two more with shooting, and missed his charge (I needed a 7).
The wounded Culexus didn't shoot (not enough WC) and advanced on the Pathfinders near #4, dying to Overwatch.
The final Culexus ran forward toward the Tau firebase, but was out of range of everything.
Backfield Eversor moved up on the Stealth suits to claim the objective, worth 2.
Callidus killed a Broadside drone, survived OW, and killed the remaining three drones before getting stomped by the two mecha. It was ok, though, since I had big plans for my Vindicares.
Speaking of the snipers, I used all four on Longstrike, who only took one HP. (Yes, I rolled three 1's on penetration.)

Crisis Suits came in on #4, because two Culexus and an Eversor is a lot to deal with. Piranhas moved forward again, hoping for a lucky kill.
LOTS more shooting from Tau managed to kill one of the Culexus threatening #4.
The Callidus who killed the Stealths didn't get much attention, because she was pretty far away from the action. Piranhas gave her 1W.

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Now I'm tired of writing, and y'all are prolly tired of reading, so I'll sum up the rest.
We went to T6. I killed everything except the Fire Warriors and the Pathfinders, who managed to hold #4, for a total of 4 points. The Bomber was also flying about, and I didn't have Skyfire. (It only caused two wounds total in the game.) He must've had around 400pts of models left.
He killed 9 of the 14 Assassins: I had all the snipers and a Callidus left, 745/2000 points. I was holding 8 points of objectives, and I scored FB, Linebreaker, and Warlord, as well as killing a Fast, for a total of 12 points. (I would've had 2 more objective points, but an unlucky save against a Fusion gun from a Piranha melted my Eversor in one hit.)

All told, I had a good time. It was certainly a strange list, and I want to try it again. It's Battle-forged and only uses one source, so that shuts down the complaints from lots of people. It does have three formations and two detachments the way I had it, or 14 detachments if you don't use the formation. That may be pushing things....

This sounded like a blast to play so who really cares about how many CAD or Formations you used. Very much like a tabletop version of "Nemesis". Great idea and good job, thanks for the report.

im glad this happened

Wanted to do this the moment I realised they weren't unique... Kudos

I didn't realize the Assassin dataslate could be used as a primary detachment.

I find this formation alone oddly compelling to play 40k 7th edition...

I have actually played against this list and it was close, although my opponent and I didn't know the rules well enough. His Callidus kept running through my Necron Wraiths; wounding on 3+ and ignoring invuls. It wasn't until I got home and pulled up the dataslate that I realized that should not have happened. He should have either wounded on 3s with the poison blades OR ignored invuls on 6+ to wound.

So I have an idea....
Since most tourneys will only allow 2 detachments/formations of one type, and yet another restriction that is common is 3 total detachments/formations.

Inquisition has assassins, they are 15 points a pop, make these your "trainees" to use as really dangerous fodder lol.

It is quite easy to take your eight assassins, and then tack on a bunch of death cult assassins with a support inquisitor or two for warlords. (Also so you do not have to worry about not having a warlord or primary detachment.)

 Elric Greywolf wrote:
SKIP TO BELOW THE LINE FOR THE OUTCOME
The weakness with the Callidus is that her Polymorph only works on the GAME turn she comes in, rather than the following Player turn. This means that, if you go second, they'll get a full round of full-BS shooting before you can charge.

Wrong. Only if they come in from reserves. If you set up straight (by infiltrate) the first turn the opponent has to snap shoot, then you go and attack.

1850 list with the 3 detachment, only one duplicate restriction....

I call this "The forgotten house"

2x Assassinorum Execution Force Formations

Inquisition detachment
2x Xenos Inquisitors with power armor, needle guns, venom talons, rad grenades

2x squads with 9x death cult assassins, and a dedicated transport Valkyries. (With the missile pods for anti hoard since that seems to be this list glaring weakness.)