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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/08/25 18:23:15
Subject: [1491] - Tyranids - Nidzilla Newbie List
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Yellin' Yoof on a Scooter
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So I got interested in Nidzilla. New to them, so asking for advice.
Tyranids (1491/1500pt.)
@HQ [ 2 ]
Hive Tyrant (230pt.) Twin-linked devourer with brainleech worms (x2); Wings;
Deathleaper (130pt.) Rending claws; Scything talons; Flesh hooks;
@Troops [ 3 ]
12x - Genestealer Brood (236pt.) Adrenal glands;
> 1x - Broodlord (60pt.); Rending claws;
> 11x - Genestealer (14pt.); Rending claws;
4x - Ripper Swarm Brood (52pt.)
> 4x - Ripper Swarm (13pt.);
4x - Ripper Swarm Brood (52pt.)
> 4x - Ripper Swarm (13pt.);
@Fast attack [ 1 ]
4x - Tyranid Shrike Brood (171pt.) Adrenalin glands;
> 3x - Tyranid Shrike (35pt.); Rending claws; Devourer;
> 1x - Tyranid Shrike (50pt.); Lash whip; Bonesword; Devourer;
@Heavy support [ 3 ]
Exocrine (170pt.) Bio-plasmic cannon; Scything talons;
Mawloc (150pt.) Prehensile pincer;
2x - Carnifex Brood (300pt.)
> 1x - Carnifex (165pt.); Twin-linked devourer with brainleech worms (x2); Adrenal glands;
> 1x - Carnifex (135pt.); Twin-linked devourer with brainleech worms; Scything Talons;
Thought of sticking Deathleaper to stealers and then strike Mawloc without scatter.
All in all, points are spended a lot more rapidly with Nids. Wanted to take stock Guards and realized I ran out of points.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/08/25 19:40:49
Subject: [1491] - Tyranids - Nidzilla Newbie List
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Rampaging Carnifex
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Unfortunately, Deathleaper is not an Independent Character and must be run solo - and being T4, this is not good! Genestealers are currently a poor choice for troops as well, but your Mawloc is a great choice! Mawlocs are great units this edition.
Flyrants are good, as are Carnifexes with devourers. Might consider giving your Rippers deep strike, so they can pop up on objectives, too.
Good start to a solid list though!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/08/25 20:10:22
Subject: Re:[1491] - Tyranids - Nidzilla Newbie List
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Longtime Dakkanaut
Cheyenne WY
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Not much to add to the above post...spending 10 points for a Thorax Hive for the Tyrant is very likely to come in handy (Electro-bugs). I would lose the Stealers, and spend the points on a good screening unit for the Big Bugs, synergy is an important part of making Nids work.
An other recommended upgrade would be Flesh Hooks for the Shrikes, they "count as" grenades, and act like a twin pistol as well...good things for CC kitted bugs.  Something you should look at, if you like exocrine, is Living Artillery. Lose Mawloc, add Biovores,x3 and a Warrior Brood.
the last "problem area" is force multipliers, this is mostly found in the Elite section, Venothropes, Zoanthropes, and Malanthropes are monster good. And plenty of folks like Hive Guard as well.
Good luck! And welcome to the Hive Mind!
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The will of the hive is always the same: HUNGER |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/08/25 20:26:59
Subject: [1491] - Tyranids - Nidzilla Newbie List
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Yellin' Yoof on a Scooter
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Thak you all for advice!
Perhaps I will discard stealers or change them for a warrior unit. Maybe even manage to add impaler guards.
I love rules for Mawloc and surely want a one! But is he viable in CC?
Also looking to raveners. Is there any way to add them in? Automatically Appended Next Post: Maybe this one will be better? Though it may look like a list of guy who want to include all his lovable units.
Tyranids (1496/1500pt.)
@HQ [ 1 ]
Hive Tyrant (230pt.) Twin-linked devourer with brainleech worms (x2); Wings;
@Elites [ 1 ]
3x - Hive Guard Brood (165pt.)
> 3x - Hive Guard (55pt.); Impaler cannon;
@Troops [ 2 ]
3x - Tyranid Warrior Brood (100pt.)
> 2x - Tyranid Warrior (30pt.); Scything Talons; Devourer;
> 1x - Tyranid Warrior (40pt.); Scything Talons; Barbed strangler;
3x - Ripper Swarm Brood (45pt.) Deep strike;
> 3x - Ripper Swarm (13pt.);
@Fast attack [ 2 ]
4x - Tyranid Shrike Brood (171pt.) Adrenalin glands;
> 3x - Tyranid Shrike (35pt.); Rending claws; Devourer;
> 1x - Tyranid Shrike (50pt.); Lash whip; Bonesword; Devourer;
4x - Ravener Brood (175pt.)
> 3x - Ravener (30pt.); Scything talons (x2);
> 1x - The Red Terror (85pt.); Scything talons (x2); Prehensile pincer;
@Heavy support [ 3 ]
Exocrine (170pt.) Bio-plasmic cannon; Scything talons;
Mawloc (140pt.)
2x - Carnifex Brood (300pt.)
> 1x - Carnifex (165pt.); Twin-linked devourer with brainleech worms (x2); Adrenal glands;
> 1x - Carnifex (135pt.); Twin-linked devourer with brainleech worms; Scything Talons;
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/08/25 20:50:01
Subject: [1491] - Tyranids - Nidzilla Newbie List
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Longtime Dakkanaut
Cheyenne WY
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Cowboy_Jerry wrote:Thak you all for advice!
Perhaps I will discard stealers or change them for a warrior unit. Maybe even manage to add impaler guards.
I love rules for Mawloc and surely want a one! But is he viable in CC?
Also looking to raveners. Is there any way to add them in?
Automatically Appended Next Post:
Maybe this one will be better? Though it may look like a list of guy who want to include all his lovable units.
Tyranids (1496/1500pt.)
@ HQ [ 1 ]
Hive Tyrant (230pt.) Twin-linked devourer with brainleech worms (x2); Wings;
@Elites [ 1 ]
3x - Hive Guard Brood (165pt.)
> 3x - Hive Guard (55pt.); Impaler cannon;
@Troops [ 2 ]
3x - Tyranid Warrior Brood (100pt.)
> 2x - Tyranid Warrior (30pt.); Scything Talons; Devourer;
> 1x - Tyranid Warrior (40pt.); Scything Talons; Barbed strangler;
3x - Ripper Swarm Brood (45pt.) Deep strike;
> 3x - Ripper Swarm (13pt.);
@Fast attack [ 2 ]
4x - Tyranid Shrike Brood (171pt.) Adrenalin glands;
> 3x - Tyranid Shrike (35pt.); Rending claws; Devourer;
> 1x - Tyranid Shrike (50pt.); Lash whip; Bonesword; Devourer;
4x - Ravener Brood (175pt.)
> 3x - Ravener (30pt.); Scything talons (x2);
> 1x - The Red Terror (85pt.); Scything talons (x2); Prehensile pincer;
@Heavy support [ 3 ]
Exocrine (170pt.) Bio-plasmic cannon; Scything talons;
Mawloc (140pt.)
2x - Carnifex Brood (300pt.)
> 1x - Carnifex (165pt.); Twin-linked devourer with brainleech worms (x2); Adrenal glands;
> 1x - Carnifex (135pt.); Twin-linked devourer with brainleech worms; Scything Talons;
Not my style, but it looks "winnable".  I suggest you drop one Hive Guard, and buy a Veno...that leaves 10 points, so buy a Thorax Hive for the Tyrant.
On the Carnifexen, you want x2 Brain Leeches on both, that is more important than Adrenal...
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The will of the hive is always the same: HUNGER |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/08/26 05:43:52
Subject: [1491] - Tyranids - Nidzilla Newbie List
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Yellin' Yoof on a Scooter
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pinecone77 wrote:
Not my style, but it looks "winnable".  I suggest you drop one Hive Guard, and buy a Veno...that leaves 10 points, so buy a Thorax Hive for the Tyrant.
On the Carnifexen, you want x2 Brain Leeches on both, that is more important than Adrenal...
Like this?
@ HQ [ 1 ]
Hive Tyrant (250pt.) Twin-linked devourer with brainleech worms (x2); Hive Commander; Wings;
@Elites [ 2 ]
2x - Hive Guard Brood (110pt.)
> 2x - Hive Guard (55pt.); Impaler cannon;
Venomethrope Brood (45pt.)
> 1x - Venomethrope (45pt.); Lash whips; Toxic miasma;
@Troops [ 2 ]
3x - Tyranid Warrior Brood (100pt.)
> 2x - Tyranid Warrior (30pt.); Scything Talons; Devourer;
> 1x - Tyranid Warrior (40pt.); Scything Talons; Barbed strangler;
3x - Ripper Swarm Brood (45pt.) Deep strike;
> 3x - Ripper Swarm (13pt.);
@Fast attack [ 2 ]
4x - Tyranid Shrike Brood (161pt.) Adrenalin glands;
> 1x - Tyranid Shrike (35pt.); Rending claws; Devourer;
> 1x - Tyranid Shrike (50pt.); Lash whip; Bonesword; Devourer;
> 2x - Tyranid Shrike (30pt.); Scything Talons; Devourer;
4x - Ravener Brood (175pt.)
> 3x - Ravener (30pt.); Scything talons (x2);
> 1x - The Red Terror (85pt.); Scything talons (x2); Prehensile pincer;
@Heavy support [ 3 ]
Exocrine (170pt.) Bio-plasmic cannon; Scything talons;
Mawloc (140pt.)
2x - Carnifex Brood (300pt.)
> 1x - Carnifex (150pt.); Twin-linked devourer with brainleech worms (x2);
> 1x - Carnifex (150pt.); Twin-linked devourer with brainleech worms (x2);
Am I right that Hive Commander allows to outflank a single unit? That would be awesome, perhaps carnifexes of guards.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/08/26 08:20:38
Subject: [1491] - Tyranids - Nidzilla Newbie List
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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IIRC, Hive Commander only allows Troops to Outflank, I would remove that and use those twenty points elsewhere given that your Rippers are Deep Striking and the Warriors can sit in your side of the field and fire off the Barbed Strangler.
Actually I would try and find the points to get another Flyrant, FMC's work better when there is more than one (and another TMC for your Nidzilla list  )
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/08/26 08:58:20
Subject: [1491] - Tyranids - Nidzilla Newbie List
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Yellin' Yoof on a Scooter
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Frozocrone wrote:IIRC, Hive Commander only allows Troops to Outflank, I would remove that and use those twenty points elsewhere given that your Rippers are Deep Striking and the Warriors can sit in your side of the field and fire off the Barbed Strangler.
Actually I would try and find the points to get another Flyrant, FMC's work better when there is more than one (and another TMC for your Nidzilla list  )
Alright, I can skip Raveners and a unit of Rippers for second Flyrant. My friend says fexes really need Adrenaline, but no points left. Is it indeed that important?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/08/26 09:01:18
Subject: [1491] - Tyranids - Nidzilla Newbie List
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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If you have the points,they by all means take them, but they are not essential. While the re-rolls to running are good (and S10 charge as a bonus), you really want the 12 S6 shots per model.
Carnifexes do most of their damage in CC via D3 S9 HoW
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/08/26 09:18:07
Subject: [1491] - Tyranids - Nidzilla Newbie List
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Yellin' Yoof on a Scooter
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Frozocrone wrote:If you have the points,they by all means take them, but they are not essential. While the re-rolls to running are good (and S10 charge as a bonus), you really want the 12 S6 shots per model.
Carnifexes do most of their damage in CC via D3 S9 HoW 
And what about hiveguards? Are they alright or it's better to get a veno and zoe?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/08/26 09:34:06
Subject: [1491] - Tyranids - Nidzilla Newbie List
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Haven't used Hive Guard myself so I can't comment on them.
Zoanthropes are a player prefence, they are a cheap source of Synapse and help with generating Psychic Powers and AT, but some people like myself, prefer other things to deal with tanks (I love Carnifexes!)
Venomthropes are awesome, provided you don't have the FW Malanthrope, which is what most people fill up their Elites with, as they are essentially a Venomthrope with Synapse for less than the price of two, while coming with all sorts of special rules (I think it's MC S5 T5 Regeneration and others, haven't got book on me).
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/08/26 16:14:07
Subject: [1491] - Tyranids - Nidzilla Newbie List
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Longtime Dakkanaut
Cheyenne WY
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Cowboy_Jerry wrote:pinecone77 wrote:
Not my style, but it looks "winnable".  I suggest you drop one Hive Guard, and buy a Veno...that leaves 10 points, so buy a Thorax Hive for the Tyrant.
On the Carnifexen, you want x2 Brain Leeches on both, that is more important than Adrenal...
Like this?
@ HQ [ 1 ]
Hive Tyrant (250pt.) Twin-linked devourer with brainleech worms (x2); Hive Commander; Wings;
@Elites [ 2 ]
2x - Hive Guard Brood (110pt.)
> 2x - Hive Guard (55pt.); Impaler cannon;
Venomethrope Brood (45pt.)
> 1x - Venomethrope (45pt.); Lash whips; Toxic miasma;
@Troops [ 2 ]
3x - Tyranid Warrior Brood (100pt.)
> 2x - Tyranid Warrior (30pt.); Scything Talons; Devourer;
> 1x - Tyranid Warrior (40pt.); Scything Talons; Barbed strangler;
3x - Ripper Swarm Brood (45pt.) Deep strike;
> 3x - Ripper Swarm (13pt.);
@Fast attack [ 2 ]
4x - Tyranid Shrike Brood (161pt.) Adrenalin glands;
> 1x - Tyranid Shrike (35pt.); Rending claws; Devourer;
> 1x - Tyranid Shrike (50pt.); Lash whip; Bonesword; Devourer;
> 2x - Tyranid Shrike (30pt.); Scything Talons; Devourer;
4x - Ravener Brood (175pt.)
> 3x - Ravener (30pt.); Scything talons (x2);
> 1x - The Red Terror (85pt.); Scything talons (x2); Prehensile pincer;
@Heavy support [ 3 ]
Exocrine (170pt.) Bio-plasmic cannon; Scything talons;
Mawloc (140pt.)
2x - Carnifex Brood (300pt.)
> 1x - Carnifex (150pt.); Twin-linked devourer with brainleech worms (x2);
> 1x - Carnifex (150pt.); Twin-linked devourer with brainleech worms (x2);
Am I right that Hive Commander allows to outflank a single unit? That would be awesome, perhaps carnifexes of guards.
Outflank one Troop. And you're real light on Troops, so I don't think you'll get good value from it...I dunno look at anchient enemy maybe?
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The will of the hive is always the same: HUNGER |
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