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Hi guys!
I need your help to try to paint Tyranid Army with this Colour Scheme:
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Could you help me with the choice of this Colour? I mean what colour, the "Name", I have to use...
Do you think that works the fact that I Prime the Miniatures with White Primer, than wash with dipping technique, antique walnut satin colour, and then, Paint the Carapace with a basecoat of black and proceeding with blue?

Or What colour I have to use to "achieve" this Carapace's Colour:
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Or this Carapace ( It's Highlighted Black-Brown-Yellow? )
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Hey man, I can link this Dakka Dakka colour chart for you to have a look at http://www.dakkadakka.com/wiki/en/Paint_Range_Compatibility_Chart it contains the old citadel and new citadel paint ranges and equivalents from other popular paint brands. Also If you can give your army a narrative perspective it helps to pick colours for example my Hive fleet are on a desert planet so I chose sand based colours like Tallarn sand and Zandri dust because they sounded like they would fit. I hope this helps and we have to see some picture when you get them completed
   
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What I want to know it's:
How can I achieve the best result?
Give at the carapace Basecoat and two Highlights and then dipping the model, or Do you suggest me to use a glaze medium and do the color's transition with it?
   
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Well, maybe with the last ones (the warriors) you could finish them with 'Ardcoat to get that glaze effect? I'm not entirely sure as I'm not to good at painting myself as the name suggests.

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Yu Jing Martial Arts Ninja






Something that worked for me getting going with Nids (though with a very different scheme) was painting 5 or 6 termagants different schemes to see what I liked - I'd suggest you try both your methods on a couple of little gribblies and see which result you prefer, that way when you're painting your 60th Hormangant you won't be asking yourself if the other way was better
   
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 Darkjim wrote:
Something that worked for me getting going with Nids (though with a very different scheme) was painting 5 or 6 termagants different schemes to see what I liked - I'd suggest you try both your methods on a couple of little gribblies and see which result you prefer, that way when you're painting your 60th Hormangant you won't be asking yourself if the other way was better


Thats what i did- used a handful of the old monopose genestealers and did a bunch of different stuff to em to get it where i wanted, then moved on.

I really wish i could figure out how to do those dang dagger stroke highlights along the carapace you see in so many nid armies though

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Cambonimachine wrote:
I really wish i could figure out how to do those dang dagger stroke highlights along the carapace you see in so many nid armies though
Easy, just paint lots of little daggers



You literally just paint daggers. I use 3 colours, dark blue (I usually just mix this), mid blue (I've been using Caledor Sky) and a light blue (I've been using Ice Blue with a touch of Caledor Sky to take the edge off it, pure Ice Blue is too bright). If I were painting show pieces, I'd build it up more gradually, but when viewed from more than a few inches away you can barely tell the difference.

Paint the entire thing the dark blue then paint large daggers using the mid blue and then smaller daggers using the light blue.

My trick is to start at the tip, using a paintbrush that has a really nice tip to it, aligning the brush with the direction of the dagger, then just pull the brush downward and press it further in to the model to make the streak broader at the base than at the tip.

You need to use a good brush with a good tip, I use a #1 size brush with a good tip to do mine, make sure when the paint is on the brush the tip is still good, you can gently roll it against your palette to create a tip.

I prefer doing long streaks of somewhat random size, I think it looks more organic that way, some people (including the official GW ones) just use lots of little tiny ones.

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Thanks man, that fex looks great btw

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For example, to unify the color's transition of the carapace, Hive Fleet Kraken for example ( Red - Orange - Yellow ), I have to do a red wash after i applied all the colours, included the highlight?
   
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Guys I have a question for you:

To achieve this result, without utilizing the dipping technique that this painter uses in his guide ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d1hTHDlYYTU&list=UU0H-9hFH0M9sdovL78yK8cg ), What I have to do, step - by - step, please, could you explain me?


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No one could help me please? I really don't want to use dipping, because I want to learn to paint without " cheating " xD
I'm joking but really guys I want to learn to paint in the standard way...

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The short version is use inks and washes. Thats basically all dipping accomplishes, its just much faster but you sacrifice some control, and your colors are limited.

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What I want to know it's what wash I have to use to achieve that result? Not only on the " flesh " but also, and mainly, on the carapace...


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Or, Like an user suggests to me, i have to do glazes?
Now sorry for this question, but i want to learn:
Glaze of the base color or the highlight?

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Guys please help me with this and the other question!
   
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I'm not up to date with the current GW paint range, but one of the lighter browns should work.
It's very difficult to identify which paints someone has used, especially when you take other manufacturers into account, and next to impossible to give a step by step for something unless you were the person to paint it.

I recommend trying out some different techniques and colours on a few small models, (Gaunts would be ideal) and seeing which you prefer the results of, and which ones you find easiest.

You will probably come up with something better than anyone can suggest based off pictures. And the practice will help as well. It's quite surprising what can work, especially with Tyranids. A watered down wash of whatever colour you fancy over bone, white or light grey looks good, and is easy. You could try washing some areas more than once to make them a bit darker.
Armour plates look good with the daggers thing, which is easy peasy so long as you take your time.

If you are worried about wasting models, you can always strip them afterwards, or use left overs-extra arms/heads. I don't know what comes on the Tyranid sprews though.

Good luck, have fun, and remember, always water down your paints.
   
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About the glazes: for the Hive Fleet Kraken, for example, on the carapace, after the second highlight, what color i should use to do the glaze and unify the colors?


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And about washes it's best to use Sepia or Flesh Wash? I mean to get a nice and dirty Tyranid... For the Carapace do you suggest me to use the same washes or the Red one?

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Use Sepia on everything first then do your highlighting. I would glaze with whatever tone is in between the base and 1st highlight (personal) If thats not strong enough for you just step it up little by little until you get the tone you want.

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Ok thanks!
So If I should do the glaze I have to do it with a mid tone between the base and the highlight, for example, on a red Carapace, a " Dirty " Orange?
Another question: I want to magnetize some unit, but I don't know magnet's size I have to buy, someone know the " standard " size I should buy for the unit?
   
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if you want to have the names of techniques right in your head, remember these basic ideas...

washes are for shading...
a darker color that you want to flow into the cracks, folds, and depressions of the mini, to define the shapes of the model...
normally applied with quite a lot on the brush, in one or two passes...
best applied after basecoats or mid-tones...

glazes are for blending colors and transitions, using very thinned ink or paint (it should look like lightly stained water) to tint the surface of the model...
normally applied with very little on the brush, in five or six passes minimum...
best applied after highlights...

dive into a couple models, get some basic work done, and then show us some pictures, even if it is just basecoats...
it will be much easier for people to give you specific advice then...

cheers
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Thanks guys!
But what I want to know it's what color should i use for the glazes? Base - Mid - Highlight ?
   
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Redondo Beach

for a glaze, i normally use inks...
just use the same color as whatever you are glazing over...
if it is a blue tone, use a blue ink...
if it is a red tone, use a red ink...
if it is a bone color, use a yellow or brown ink...
just keep in mind, it should be about one drop of ink with about 8-10 drops of water, minimum...
very thin stuff...

for washes, use a darker version of your midtone or basecoat...
if you are not using custom washes, you can make quick ones with a drop of paint, 3-4 drops of water, and a tiny drop of dish washing liquid soap...

now go experiment...

cheers
jah




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