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I have not long taken the step into super heavies. Baby steps at first and I have myself an imperial knight. I love it already. I mean I ADORE it. And once it's finished I'm looking at my next project. So I'm thinking a war hound scout Titan is the next step. However I'm struggling to find rules and such for it.

I have the original apocalypse book, but this is somewhat dated compared to where we are with 7th edition now. So I'm looking for some help with those of you that have war hound table time. I have some questions....

Does it still have 3 structure points? Does this still count as 9 hull points? Does the damage just work the way super heavies are described in the 40k rule book or is it still the case that an explodes result loses a whole structure point AND grants another role? Or do they follow the BRB rules for super heavies and ignore all normal results?

How do void shields work? Does it still just have the 2? How are they removed? Can they still regen? If one is dropped do you still gain protection from the other? (I have literally no experience with void shields)

Is there any change to the weapons?

On a more tactical front, what are the best weapons for it? I'm thinking double barrelled turbo laser destructor and plasma blastgun.

Are they still 750 points? And do they count as a lord of war? How would they play in 7th?

A lot of questions I know, but I've never played apocalypse or escalation and I'm very interested. I'm ready for the step into the big Titan world...

the most up to date rules, unless FW has released a book with them statted since then, is Apoclypse 6th edition. I'd reccomend seeing if you can snag it.

How they play?

You take it.

You win.

The rules for the Warhound, and other superheavies have been updated in the 6th edition Apoc book, found here. There have also been some released in Escalation, and yet more in the various books from Forgeworld. Many of which can be purchased as e-books from the Black Library.

So what's the best weapon load outs?

most OP in 7th is probably still dual turbolaser destructors.

THey are powerful yep - although last Appoc game we had - a Talos killed one on its own - we had fired pretty much half our army at it to little effect (something like 25 Dark Lances and blasters plus other sutff) and the most mocked model in our army chopped it ito pieces

With the most recent updates in 7th Edition, the best weapons are probably the Turbo-Laser and Inferno Cannon, purely since the IC is the only Warhound weapon which ignores cover, something Destroyer does not do now.

The Vulcan Mega-Bolter is still the only Titan-class weapon that can target Flyers, not that it's considered a good choice over the Turbo-Laser Destructor. With the nerfing to D-Weapon damage, duel Turbo-Lasers is still the best load out for Warhounds.

SJ

I was thinking turbo laser and plasma blast gun. But I like the flamer weapon too.... Too difficult.

Get all of them and magnetise them, I use about 2cm magnets that are about 3mm thick and they have plenty of hold. Given the amount of pinning and special glues with long drying times (unless you want your titan to fall apart) and the amount of bits you totally want to magnetise anyway (carapace so you can see crew etc). Sticking some big magnets on the guns aint a big deal.

wtnind wrote:
Get all of them and magnetise them, I use about 2cm magnets that are about 3mm thick and they have plenty of hold. Given the amount of pinning and special glues with long drying times (unless you want your titan to fall apart) and the amount of bits you totally want to magnetise anyway (carapace so you can see crew etc). Sticking some big magnets on the guns aint a big deal.

Thanks dude. Though I've never magnetised before. It's a new concept to me really. I mean, I know people do it. But I tend to write and finalise my list, then buy my models, and then build to the list.

Well people often say 'ive never magnetised' or even 'magnetising is too advanced' but at the end of the day its not rocket science, you buy neodynium magnets off ebay and a drill bit the same size or .5mm bigger and put the magnet in the hole you drill.

for the warhound you don't even need to drill you can just use a cheap hacksaw to cut dow the ball joint and stick the magnet on top.

Yeah, I wouldn't imagine it's difficult. I've just never done it.

Try using paper clip pins first because neodymium is pricy. I use it to pin the arms on my terminators because the tiny neodymium magnets are too weak. The slightly bigger neodymium magnets are super strong! I talking about 1 size category bigger and they are very strong!

By using at least 2 pins, it stops unwanted and nnoying rotation. 3 pins in a triangle formation in a joint makes it strong. Adding more will make the joint better.

Magnets are pretty cheap compared to the price of a warhound titan!

I bought a pack of various sizes (25 magnets in total) of which the 2 largest sizes (of which you got 2 of each) were:

2 off 20mm dia x 3mm thick
2 off 25mm dia x 2mm thick

The 20mm ones have sufficient hold to keep a titan gun arm up and the largest magnet keeps torso joined to the top half. The full pack cost £10 and I bought 2 packs, not bad considering the titan costs ~£350

Use square magnets and save yourself some serious irritation.

I dislike the cube magnets. 6 faces is harder to get proper polarity than 2. I use 1/8th inch magnets on everything in standard 40k. Holy damn those things hold well. I have cubic 1mm magnets, which are pretty much only good when used in groups, or on combi weapons.

I've only seen one batrep with a warhound, it had the vulcan and the plasma. The vulcan didn't do a whole lot, I wouldn't suggest it.

Certainly the Plasma, Turbo Lasers, and Flamer are the best weapons.

You'll want to avoid the Turbo Lasers if you're up against vehicles with great cover/invuln saves because Str D shots don't ignore saves like they used to