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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/09/11 16:11:18
Subject: Vortex of doom and Impassable Terrain
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This past weekend I played in an apocalypse game, and I targeted my opponents transcendent Ctan with a vortex of doom, I hit and it didn't scatter. It didn't kill the Ctan on the first turn, but because the rules say the marker becomes impassable terrain we weren't sure what that meant for the Ctan. The TO ruled that the Ctan was locked in place and couldn't move until the vortex moved and nothing could assault the Ctan because the terrain it was in was impassable. Is this how it should go or should the Ctan have been shunted off the marker when it became impassable?
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The Emperor Protects
Strike Force Voulge led by Lord Inquisitor Severus Vaul: 7000 points painted
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/09/11 16:26:15
Subject: Vortex of doom and Impassable Terrain
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Fixture of Dakka
Vanished Completely
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if nothing in the Vortex Rule states the Model must be moved in these situations, then permission to move the Model from it's current location simply does not exist and it must remain in it's original spot. This does not cause any issue however, as the Restrictions for Impassable Terrain have to do with movement or movement related events. As the Movement Rules give us permission to choose not to Move a Model, it is entirely possible for the 'trapped' Model to obey the Impassable Terrain Restrictions simply by standing still. Therefore, it is forced to stand still till the vortex moves off it. That thing really should come with some sort of fly-paper template....
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8th made it so I can no longer sway Tau onto the side of Chaos, but they will eventually turn aside from their idea of the Greater Good to embrace the Greatest of pleasures. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/09/11 16:28:55
Subject: Vortex of doom and Impassable Terrain
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Longtime Dakkanaut
Minneapolis, MN
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As a Gargantuan Monstrous Creature, the C'Tan is not allowed to move through Impassable Terrain. And since you have to move through the terrain to get out of it, it means that the model effectively gets trapped in that Vortex if the template is touching its base during the movement phase.
A couple provisos:
- Remember that Vortex scatters every turn - make sure you get the timing right.
- C'Tans often take Transliminal Stride as an upgrade, which allows them ignore terrain when moving.
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This message was edited 6 times. Last update was at 2014/09/11 16:32:27
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/09/11 17:41:37
Subject: Re:Vortex of doom and Impassable Terrain
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The Conquerer
Waiting for my shill money from Spiral Arm Studios
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It does appear that technically VoD will lock any models in place that don't ignore terrain when moving. And things like Skimmers and Jump units could actually deliberately land on the vortex if they wanted to.
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Self-proclaimed evil Cat-person. Dues Ex Felines
Cato Sicarius, after force feeding Captain Ventris a copy of the Codex Astartes for having the audacity to play Deathwatch, chokes to death on his own D-baggery after finding Calgar assembling his new Eldar army.
MURICA!!! IN SPESS!!! |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/09/11 20:20:14
Subject: Vortex of doom and Impassable Terrain
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Dakka Veteran
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Yes but I don't think it's locked in place, on it's next movement phase he would just move off of it.
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In a dog eat dog be a cat. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/09/11 20:21:06
Subject: Vortex of doom and Impassable Terrain
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The Conquerer
Waiting for my shill money from Spiral Arm Studios
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Lungpickle wrote:Yes but I don't think it's locked in place, on it's next movement phase he would just move off of it.
Only if he has permission to move through Impassable terrain, as to move off it he must move through it.
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Self-proclaimed evil Cat-person. Dues Ex Felines
Cato Sicarius, after force feeding Captain Ventris a copy of the Codex Astartes for having the audacity to play Deathwatch, chokes to death on his own D-baggery after finding Calgar assembling his new Eldar army.
MURICA!!! IN SPESS!!! |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/09/11 20:22:40
Subject: Vortex of doom and Impassable Terrain
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Legendary Master of the Chapter
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Lungpickle wrote:Yes but I don't think it's locked in place, on it's next movement phase he would just move off of it.
How does one move through impassible terrain?
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Unit1126PLL wrote: Scott-S6 wrote:And yet another thread is hijacked for Unit to ask for the same advice, receive the same answers and make the same excuses.
Oh my god I'm becoming martel.
Send help!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/09/11 20:24:21
Subject: Vortex of doom and Impassable Terrain
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The Conquerer
Waiting for my shill money from Spiral Arm Studios
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Only if you are a Skimmer, Jet bike, or have the Jump/Jet unit type. Otherwise, you're stuck.
It kinda makes sense. You are partially within what is essentially a miniature Black Hole.
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Self-proclaimed evil Cat-person. Dues Ex Felines
Cato Sicarius, after force feeding Captain Ventris a copy of the Codex Astartes for having the audacity to play Deathwatch, chokes to death on his own D-baggery after finding Calgar assembling his new Eldar army.
MURICA!!! IN SPESS!!! |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/09/11 20:26:25
Subject: Vortex of doom and Impassable Terrain
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Legendary Master of the Chapter
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Grey Templar wrote:Only if you are a Skimmer, Jet bike, or have the Jump/Jet unit type. Otherwise, you're stuck.
It kinda makes sense. You are partially within what is essentially a miniature Black Hole.
It was a rhetorical question
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Unit1126PLL wrote: Scott-S6 wrote:And yet another thread is hijacked for Unit to ask for the same advice, receive the same answers and make the same excuses.
Oh my god I'm becoming martel.
Send help!
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