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I have some Ideas for the name of my SoB minor Order but I'd like to see what others may come up with for some inspiration.

I've all ways wanted to to a SoB army I have 3 models with a 4th in the mail and I'm going to be try my hand at a kit bash between an alternate rhino variant by Bitspudluo "Bison" using the sides and wheels and the GW Immolator for the SoB to get a AFV feel to the vehicles kind of like swat / eswat (appleseed). I'm one of the hopefuls of "crossing my fingers but not holding my breath" for SoB plastics from GW and I'm also keeping an eye on Raging Heroes for their 'sisters of eternal mercy' female space paladins kickstarter. In the meantime i'm just gathering some models that look interesintg and seeing what conversions and kit bashing that I can do for them in the meantime.

Armor Colors - Grey armor, Green robes, White shoulders and helm crests, small gold detailing


If this helps I've also put together an order creation table using the one off of 1d4chan ( http://1d4chan.org/wiki/Sisters_of_Battle_Order_Creation_Tables )

-Order Type
Order Militant

-Order Originator
Volenteer selection from Sacred Rose, Argent Shroud; Small numbers from Bloody Rose, Martyred Lady.

-Order Purpose
Stratigic Prognostication / Standing Force

-Order's Flaw
Bad Ecclessiarch Relations - The Order has deviated from the Imperial Cult in a significant way.

-Order Demeanour
See, But Don't Be Seen - Stay sensible, stay alive.
Sisters in Battle - Your sisters are your life!
Swift As The Wind - Crush the Heretic before they realize we are here!

-Primary Saint
Battle Sister (Dunane Knuton)

-Deeds of Legend
The Saint led a campaign agains a rebel army, Defeating the foe and bringing an entire sector back into the light of the emperor.

-Order's Homeworld
Imperial Navy and Trading port Hiveworld
+terrain
Temperate Alipine Forest
+Rule of Homeworld
No Involvment- "Our sacred Maindens shall not be political tools" (minor advisory roll to significant law enforcment/millitary situations)
+Order Organisation
Slight Variation for adaptation to homeworld needs.

-Orders Strategy
Ranged Combat with Vehicle and Airial insertions. (think S.W.A.T. / ES.W.A.T. )

-Order Divergence
Modified Weaponry/vehicles - preference to wheeled vehicles as opposed to tracked vehicles.

-Order's Methods of Worship
Honour those Gone before - "Look to your superiors for guidance, they shall not fail you" [Purity of Man - "Protect the Hallowed human form from rusted iron"]

-Order's Size
Under Powered

-Order's Allies
Adeptus Arbites
Impirial Navy
Adeptus Mechanicus
Navigators
Adeptus Astra Telepatica
Astropaths

-Order's Enemies
Rogue Traders who deal in illigal activies
Chaos Space Marines
Deamons
Chaos Cults (reputation of quickly stamping out cults that manifest in their homeworld star system and sector)
{less than frendly relations with the Administratum and Inquisition usualy due to getting in their way and mucking things up}

 Furyou Miko wrote:
That's an awkward shade of green to name. Forest Green? ^^; I quite like the amount of detail you have already, though.

Silver armour with green robes. Focus on blitzkreig and aerial tactics (Pleasepleaseplease get an Aquila Lander or two for this army!).

Names... names... usually a good bet is an adjective noun couplet.

Order of the Verdant Tide?
Order of the Verdant Wind?
Order of the Holy Storm?

thanks! the green is actuality Dark Angles Green with Codex Grey armor. I took a look around and getting an Aquila Lander might not be easy as the kit might be discontinued by forge world.

Thanks for the suggestions so far.

 Psienesis wrote:

Bad Ecclessiarch Relations - The Order has deviated from the Imperial Cult in a significant way.

This needs some explanation, because the Imperial Creed is not exactly a unified religion. How the Emperor is worshipped on one planet is not how he is worshipped on the next, and Wars of Faith arise between variant versions of the Imperial Creed all the time (neither of whom are objectively wrong).

The only things that can be said of the Imperial Creed that are true across all worlds is that 1) The Emperor was a man, 2) He ascended to Divinity, 3) He is immortal and protects Mankind, 4) He was the father of the Primarchs, half of whom betrayed him, 5) The Astartes are of his flesh and blood, and are his Angels of Death, 6)There is a place called the Warp where all evil comes from and is the abode of Daemons, the God-Emperor seals them away.

That's pretty much it.

An Order that deviated from those basic precepts would probably not be around long... or would all be Repentia, which amounts to the same thing.

1d4Chan's Order creation kit is cool, but it misses the mark in certain aspects. The thing about the Sisters is that they only have 2 training facilities, their doctrine and their dogma do not deviate from each other because of this. With only two places to keep an eye on, the upper-ranks of the Sororitas can perform some pretty strict "quality control" on the training of Neophytes.


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You should also look into making a character, either the current Canoness or perhaps a historical heroine of the Order, based on
Saint Hildegard of Bingen.

Hmm, I do agree. The 1d4chan order creation tool is good, but as you said has some flaws. Additionaly I could look into the SM chaper creation tool from one of the earlier SM codex's and look at the flaw's there to see if any of those would fit better ( the one on 1d4chan is worded similar to the SoB one and is not much help)...hmm thinking about it they would have to be in a similar situation as the Space Wolves where they have taken on the beliefs of some of the pagan gods of the local population of which would not be possible for SoB with their stick quality control that you described.

4th ed SM codex has it, looking at it the "Flesh over Steel" major Drawback would probably fit quite well. It's described as a lack of the Heaviest equipment or adopted special fighting techniques making such equipment less significant; in the SM codex it lists a 'only 0-1 of Land Raider, Predator Destructor, whirlwind, Vindicator. Can not use land raider crusader or predator annihilator. Transport options use a Fast Attack slot on the force organisation chart.' So in translation for SoB that could mean only 0-1 exorcist, Pennant Engine.

I'll have to read up on that character suggestion otherwise the one I have for now is the Battle Sister Dunane Knuton (deunan knute from Appleseed) as I'm trying to have a slight SWAT / ESWAT flavor to the army with the wheel'ed vehicles instead of tracks.

 Psienesis wrote:
Oh, Saint Hildegard of Bingen isn't a character, she's a real-life Saint who studied and wrote about botany (hence the tie-in to your green Sisters), composed what is, perhaps, the first morality play (as well as other musical works) and was known to have visions. She also battled sickness and illnesses throughout her life, which might be an "in" to a Minor Order that especially fights Nurgle and his cults.

Ohh, now that's an interesting idea.

Hmm, some interesting Ideas and points I should think about.
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@ Lynata - Didn't think of it that way for having 'bad eccleasiarch relations', and for the idea's that I have for the my order that would work quite well. As you said with SoB party being an 'internal police force' meeting or dealing with a Cardinal while on the surface acting in goodwill but under the surface is very morally reprehensible [ imagine the situation of the evil political official or corrupt corporate business legally able to do horrendous immoral repugnant actions and getting away with it ] I would imagine a Canoness would be more than happy to either arrest him or execute said Cardinal on the spot. In terms of lore it could be...using the Emperors name to benefit himself perhaps or in some other fashion.

As you said here -- "Another possible problem might be that the Minor Orders have always been described as splinters from a single Major Order - essentially a temporary base that just turned permanent due to either the mission commander or the Canoness seeing a need to maintain a presence, and then successfully petitioning for sanctioning the creation of a Minor Order for this purpose. " -- While for my order it consist of volunteers from mostly 2 (Sacred Rose, Argent Shroud) and a few from Bloody Rose, Martyred Lady. It was established at first that there was a need for SoB in the sector and solar system and as you put it a need to maintain a presence there and so instead of a group of volunteers they were then grouped under a unified banner of a minor order for that sector/solar system.

Its from the Strategic Prognostication / Standing Force where there was a need for them at first as a preventative measure against any threats that might appear and after some time the effectiveness (by simply doing what SoB do) and of the presence of the sisters was noted as rather effective enough to unite the group under a single banner of a minor order.

For some of the allies thanks for pointing that out as I'm not 100% on the smaller details of the SoB. When I was picking out the list for allies I was in the mindset of they would be on good relations with groups that deal with ships a lot including the groups that help ships travel through the warp like navigators and astropaths that while most SoB ( irc most SoB share the same level of dislike an suspicion as the Black Templars). A better way to put it [and i should also note this in the OP] is that they are more ...... tolerable to those groups than other SoB orders as they understand the need and necessity of those groups for space travel.

Now as for the color selection it mostly started as choosing colors that were not the Black, Red, and white that is normally seen on sisters and wanted something different for them. for the armor I chose Grey because I really like the way i was painting Grey on my SW, I when with green on the robes because I liked the idea of them having green robes, and then the White on the helm crest and shoulders is there to break up what would be a rather bland color scheme to me. Though Psienesis gave a really good back ground tie in with a real historic Saint that studied Botany to give reason for the green robes.
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Though for the names that I came up with before I started the thread were - Argent Rose, Sacred Shroud, and Verdant Knight. I'm definitely going to add the historic Saint Hildegard of Bingen as a character to my order along with Dunane Knuton and her partner Briehana. Rhinos/Immolators with wheels and SoB rappelling out of Valkries in a similar fashion to SWAT and other military groups is a big inspiration for my order and it lends itself very well to operating on a hive world that is also a sizable trading ship port and imperial navy hub world where transportation is key to stop heretics from making an escape on a departing space ship.

Though Please keep posting name ideas, I'm really liking the use of Verdant (green) in the name ideas

 Furyou Miko wrote:
I like the idea of aquilas refitted as gunships, escorting the valkyries, too. heh.

fox-light - the Sisters don't hate psykers. They hate witches. The Sisterhood apparently have quite a good relationship with the Adeptus Astra Telepathica, the Imperium's sanctioned psyker division, since they have taken over from the Sisters of Silence in the role of Guardians of the Black Ships.

Ahh, well the more ya' know. thanks!

@ Psinesis & Lynata - Definitely some ideas to think about

Though Bloody Cloth and Virtuous Blood, give me the image of red robes rather than green ones; and Divine works would suggest more of a white primary color scheme. However they could still work in tandem with Saint Hildegard tie in to the green robes.

Here's a list of some of the names that I've come up with so far.

Verdant Cloth
Verdant Shroud
Emerald Rose
Argent Flame
Verdant Blade
Emerald Blade
Verdant Rose
Verdant Lady

Though I'm starting to like the sound of "The Order of the Argent Rose". With a before and after the actions of Saint Hildegard of Bingen.

before - Grey armor with White robes, shoulders and helm crest.

After - Grey armor, Green robes, white shoulders and helm crests

The iconography could be a white rose inside a silver halo. Then after Hildegard's actions it would have a green background behind the rose.

 Psienesis wrote:
While it does have that minty-fresh feel, I think the other uses of the word "verdant", to mean fertile, fecund, etc. is... not quite fitting to the Sisters. Too much associated word-baggage, I suppose.

With Verdant = Green a quick look at the symbolism of green some of the words that come up are nature, healing, life, fertility as mention, royalty to a small degree. Also a common one was illness and sickness (however that's a tie in with the Saints defeat of a nergal cult and the saint studying botany ). Not to mention there's the good ol' word of Greenhorn = rookie.

Well I do have to thank everyone for their imput so far as I think I've settled on "The Order of the Argent Rose". With notable characters being Saint Hildegard ( Saint Hildegard of Bingen ), Dunane Knuton, and a rather unique combination of Little Red and BB (think of the image of a SoB walking forward with Bolter slung to the side with a Bolt Revolver and combat knife in hand flanked behind by a Thunder wolf using the one from the wolf lord on thunder wolf model)

 Furyou Miko wrote:
Sounds awesome.

You totally have to make that diorama. I suggest the old 2e Standard Bearer for a base model, since she has the slung bolter and an outstretched hand.

I do plan to; the wolf will be easy because the one in the Wolf Lord on thunder wolf is completely separate from the rider and is posed really nicely. As for the SoB finding a model won't be easy, especially one that has a "walking forward" pose, or any combination of model bits and parts.

as for the revolver, this one - http://zinge.co.uk/index.php?route=product/product&path=20&product_id=589
the description seems that it might be about as big as a GW bolt pistol and it looks amazing.

The 2nd ed standard bearer might work but part of the standard seems to be modeled as part of her robes.

 Furyou Miko wrote:
Hm, I'd forgotten how the pole goes into the folds. You'd need to use a drill to get it out satisfactorily, and have to do a bit of resculpting where the outstretched arm folds back on itself. My memory has failed you, I apologise. Might be easiest to kitbash her from mixed bits.

was looking around and found this -> http://www.createyourminis.com/

and on dakka on page 3 -> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/60/586718.page

 don_mondo wrote:
fox light = vulpine lucem
Order of the Vulpine Lucem

I'll have to put that one down in my notes.