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 Furyou Miko wrote:

 Veteran Sergeant wrote:

 Blackhair Duckshape wrote:
5. Sobs of Battle: they really should take a page out of these power armoured ladies' books.

What the hell did I just watch? I had to break the link just to ensure I'd have no part in redsitributing that nonsense.

You anime kiddos are weird.

Don't lump me in with them...

I have to agree about that hurting the women's crotches. Dear lord that must feel like the biggest wedgie of all time. I can only imagine how much it might dig into their erm crotch area and fall in O_O.

I also agree about otakus being the biggest closet perverts in the world. I mean i'm a huge pervert but i'm into regular stuff and not the weird BDSM or super closet pervert stuff of otakus. You guys make me blush and out-perv me and that's a f**king accomplishment right there.

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Mostly aesthetically stupid things of 40k hmm. Well in more normal senses the centurion of course. I would say the assault centurion is pretty dumb but chest guns sound dumb even if boob guns are absolutely hilarious as well as stuff like 'c**k' rockets.

It makes sense but aesthetically i think rhinos look like shoe boxes mounted on treads.

Just gonna go out and say most of the space marines (and all the space marine factions including grey knights, chaos marines and all the sub-factions but not sisters because they're not marines and they haven't seen a release in forever because they're dead as an army and we all know it ;P and take that lynata and furyou miko) toys in general suck with the exception of maybe some of the older stuff.

The new tau stuff in general looks stupid (though their battlesuits were always too clunky to me) with the exception of the railgun broadside which looks interesting with the 8 bit guitar design of the railgun.

Some of the necron stuff from their older codex was also dumb (the ward dex). I liked the arks but the rest i dunno.

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For me i just find what i like tends to be imperial guard, sisters of battle, any elf aesthetic (but not their attitude or mindset which is horrible and annoying respectively) so eldar and dark eldar, orks as well as the fantasy versions (or at least the goblin half) and the storm trooper army. For whatever reason GW are really, really good at making elves which would probably have given Tolkien the biggest fan b*ner ever.

One reason why i prefer warhammer fantasy is with the exception of some of the weird nagash models fantasy has a better production quality for their models. Models are either ok or great whereas with 40k they're horrible or great.

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@lynata: How do you hate the taurox or at least aesthetically? Granted the new stormtrooper army took some getting used to (if you can consider 3 different types of models an army) but i think both the stormtroopers and the taurox were absolutely fantastic looking. It wasn't love at first sight but eventually i liked it just like the storm talons for space marines (still a bit iffy how they have wings, a helicopter shape and then jets as it just looks a little weird but it's also cool surprisingly).

@lynata: Well it turns out i read who said they hated tauroxes and being you when it wasn't. That said i think you dislike them and stormtroopers anyway. As i said it wasn't love at first sight but i grew to like them esp. given different colors. I also love the 'death camp' feel of the taurox. Very nice looking stuff indeed.

I wouldn't mind seeing bullgryns mounted in tauroxes myself.

@lynata: Really? I just imagine bullgryns are more roided up versions of Bane from 'Dark Knight Rises'.

I'm still surprised you're a dude lynata considering some of the complaints you have. Some of your opinions or complaints seem very female in origin. You know like the 'high heels' for instance. Yeah it makes no sense but it just sounds like something a guy wouldn't complain over. Guess not all guys are as pervy as me .

Also i don't get some people actually thought 40k is too sexual with women. If anything 40k is one of the most sexually toned down universes i've seen with the exception of slaanesh and he's the prince of pleasure and excess and of all things they have noise marines instead of fap marines. Seriously they're more like obnoxious kids that have their music up too loud rather than people at rave parties.

More on topic i still don't get why people hate the taurox. Sure it wasn't love at first sight for me but i grew to love it. A death camp vehicle makes sense for the imperium esp. with storm troopers. Now if only storm troopers would get power mauls and combat shields or give them arbites with those things.

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I still say most of the bad models originate from the space marine armies, possibly tau, maybe necrons and maybe nids. Guard, eldar of all types and orks are fantastic looking. Nids and necrons have some decent models but i've never been into the bugs too much as it's just not my style. Seriously find a terrible looking elf model from GW. It'll be hard to find as they really do elves well of all things.

@FrozenOcean: Yeah but 40k doesn't have super big boobs on all the females. If anything i feel GW is about as family friendly as they can get since they started trying to be (after the dark eldar slave girls period ;P).

I was always of the idea that tallarn desert raiders were more middle eastern than white. Also while we're at it we know tau are basically space asians and they have blue skin and erm a weird nose crevice, bird like mercenary buddies (kroot), battlesuits and bug buddies (vespid). If anything i would've loved to see more auxiliary races in an supplement or something. Too bad it'll be years before that's a possibility again.

I never specifically think of slaanesh as the 'god of sex'. It's just more fun thinking that and much sillier. I mean i know he's the prince of excess but loud music just seems a little silly. Also i think rave parties are the perfect example of slaanesh besides crazy cult followings. I mean loud music, drugs, sex and lots of glow sticks. I'm pretty sure that's what slaanesh is about.

 Furyou Miko wrote:
Lynata and Frozen Ocean are men. My universe is shattered. Noooo. [/deadpan sarcasm]

Was watching 'Nicolas Cage Losing His Sh*t' on youtube. I imagine that as one of our realizations. Try not to go crazy and eat poop .

Besides you're british so sarcasm is like second nature to you.

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I suppose if i should add something to aesthetics i don't like is everything needs a mother f**king skull on it. You count like 5 freaking skulls on a guardsmen alone (gun insignia, belt, helmet, shoulder pad and possibly more) and i don't even think that's the most. Don't get me wrong grim dark and all that but now we have fantasy with those mortarches and crap that are filled with skulls. They look like a freaking skull gum-ball machine.

http://www.games-workshop.com/en-US/Arkhan-the-Black

I'm also unsure whether to laugh at the 'khorne lord of skulls' or feel bad over it. On one hand it's so over the top and on the other it just seems so dumb.

http://www.games-workshop.com/en-US/Chaos-Space-Marines-Khorne-Lord-of-Skulls

Banners on some soldiers. I feel like banners mounted on a soldier are just stupid. How do they get through buildings as large as they are? It's kind of cool but impractical. Not to mention what if the banner actually obscures their vision by going over their face in the wind or something. I also imagine it's like a freaking sail-boat whenever a strong wind is blowing. They probably struggle to balance themselves and prevent being blown away.

 Bronzefists42 wrote:
The whole "Only White Male" thing is supposed to be really disturbing. That and other WWII Germany esque imagery is used to intentionally invoke the sense that there is something seriously wrong with the Imperium if these are the only people we ever really see.

The imperium is still a totalitarian militaristic space theocracy, not the good guys.

Warhammer in general rips off other IP's and takes things out of history and such because they don't have the greatest imagination (in many cases). I think it's less them trying to throw out that image and more them following historical pictures so much they accidentally throw out that feeling.

Agreed on zerg doing it better than tyranids. Tyranid guns and swords just look too human. Zerg have acid spit, claws and needles they shoot out of themselves (hydralisks).

Also as much as imperial guard have a monopoly on heavy armor and explosions i would have liked to see an assault helicopter similar to the space marine storm talon for use in the imperial guard. Too bad the guard is too heavily influenced on WWI and WWII to use anything resembling a helicopter.

http://www.games-workshop.com/en-US/Space-Marine-Stormtalon-Gunship

I also hate the over abundance of skulls. Seriously you guys can stop when you make a model look like a gum-ball machine. Here's the model i'm talking about.

http://www.games-workshop.com/en-US/Conclave-of-Death

Also tau models are mostly just stupid looking. The riptide's head is way too tiny. The large battlesuits (crisis size and beyond with the exception of the xv-9 from forgeworld though it has weird kneejoints) just tend to look stupid and super clunky unlike the high tech nature of the faction. Still unhappy the kroot and esp. the vespid or other auxiliary alien factions didn't get some love in a tau supplement. Seriously vespid commandos that fly and see in multiple spectrums allowing them to see through stealthed units would've been cool (then again i don't play 40k anymore so it's moot).