Your top 5 most displeasing aesthetic aspectsof the 40k setting?

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**Furyou Miko**

1) Lack of Helmeted Sisters.

2) Lack of female Guard heads.

3) Lack of female Sisters heads (and generally the oversized 'hero scale' heads that make it look like their armour is less than a half cm thick).

4) Dreadknights having Terminator pilots - should be a PAGK, since the DK provides Terminator-level protection anyway and even the GK don't have an infinite supply of Terminator suits.

5) PAGK. The wrist storm bolters look... silly on PA gauntlets. Sorry. They just do.

Also, Dshrike - in Rogue Trader, Hunter-Killers had lasguns

That's why Termagants carry their weapons.

**Furyou Miko**

I love how many of peoples "aesthetic" dislikes are actually about game rules...

**Furyou Miko**

OgreChubbs wrote:
mmmmm you know heroic scale is smaller heads......right?

Uh, no. Heroic scale is why Space Marine and Sister of Battle heads are the same size as Space Marine and Sister of Battle helmets.

throwoff wrote:
Marine shotguns - not only hideous but why do they fire solid slugs.. I mean come on buckshot against nids would be more effective!!

Hurricaine bolters - the same ones on land raider crusaders are as powerful on those attached to centurion suits...

You're kidding, right? Buckshot would increase the 'nids armour save from 5+ to 4+. Buckshot does not penetrate well.

In fact, the only reason it's called Buckshot is because 'Duckshot' sounds less manly. Buckshot is only really used for hunting birds.

As for Hurricane Bolters, you do realise that the Hurricane Bolter is literally a battlefield jury-rig (originally) made by linking six regular Godwyn-pattern bolters to a single mount and trigger, right?

**Furyou Miko**

MWHistorian wrote:True, not quite aesthetic, but like others reminded me, I hate that there are so few female characters. The IG should be at least 1/3 female. (depending on planet I suppose.)
40k is too much a sausage fest even to the point of contradicting the fluff. There should also be more female Eldar and where are the female Tau?

Female Tau are only distinguishable against male Tau to humans by the Y-shaped incision on their face instead of the vertical slit, so... craft knife fixes that issue pretty neatly.

AllSeeingSkink wrote:Not to sound like a male chauvinist pig... but the Cadian models are AWEFUL proportions, I'd much rather GW fix the proportions of the male models so they actually look human before worrying about adding female models.

If they just added a female torso to the Cadians it'd look silly because the arms, legs and heads are too thick even for a man let alone a woman.

Though maybe the female models would also be fethed up in proportions enough to look like regular human males

I don't think it makes you a male chauvinist pig to make that comment, but I disagree. Fixing the models' proportions would mean they don't fit in with the rest of the older models in the army, whereas with the emphasis on the heads on GW models, female heads on equally disproportionate bodies would look just as good (or bad) as the male models.

**Furyou Miko**

Cowboy_Jerry wrote:
Well, both tyranids' and eldar guns look like sex toys.

All of a sudden I find myself gripped by terrified, morbid curiosity about your kinks if you think squirming, pulsing beetles covered in eyes and teeth look like sex toys.

**Furyou Miko**

Blackhair Duckshape wrote:
5. Sobs of Battle: they really should take a page out of these power armoured ladies' books.

... my boobs hurt just from watching that transformation sequence. No.

Just... no.

**Furyou Miko**

Veteran Sergeant wrote:
Blackhair Duckshape wrote:
5. Sobs of Battle: they really should take a page out of these power armoured ladies' books.

What the hell did I just watch? I had to break the link just to ensure I'd have no part in redsitributing that nonsense.

You anime kiddos are weird.

Don't lump me in with them...

**Furyou Miko**

The Valkyrie, I believe, is actually a vectored thrust aircraft like the Harrier. When entering hover mode, the entire output of those two massive engines on the top is redirected to the four wingtip fans. The narrow aperture on the wingtips increases the effective downthrust relative to the engine output.

It's still a stupid way to run a transport plane though. There's a reason the Osprey has props.

Seconding the disgust at the White Dwarf painting scheme, and I don't know where their photographer trained, but gods, man, I take better photos than you do and I was just the note-taker!

**Furyou Miko**

I suppose so, but there's also the fact that in terms of fuel efficiency, a straight-up VTOL is never going to be superior to a V/STOVL. The Valkyrie would be a much more reasonable aircraft (if you assume, as I do, that the wings on the 'real thing' have aerofoils), if it had wheels instead of skids.

**Furyou Miko**

The Guardsmen models have long been criticised as being too large.

**Furyou Miko**

Lynata and Frozen Ocean are men. My universe is shattered. Noooo. [/deadpan sarcasm]

Unyielding Hunger wrote:5. Certain terrible vehicle exit locations. As wonderful as the models are in general, I would love to see conversions that would remove those issues of friendly fire.
4. Lack of bodily protection. Gentlemen (and occasionally Ladies), you are among the finest tacticians your respective faction can produce, be it T'au, Adeptas Astartes, Eldar, or even Ork (Especially Ork.). Bring appropriate full body armor and helmet to prevent quick and immediate death upon the battlefield.

Oh, sir, honestly, I wish I could[i] rock up to my games in full power armour. Really, I do.

For the following 3 responses, I apologize to all the veteran SoB players, especially SisterSydney and Furyou Miku. I surrender myself to your flamers for summary execution for heresy.

3. Exorcists. I would perfer a far better pun than a couple ladies who can play some pretty explosive solos.
2. Sisters of Battle haircuts. I'm sorry ladies, but that style is not a mandate of the God Emperor of Mankind. Feel free to show some minor individuality as long as you punish yourself appropriately for it later.
1. Adepta Sororitas armor. Oh how I wish there was a more modern version without the boobplate and heels. I can understand the flair they were going for in the 80s, but that armor just does not look like it can be rated at 4+ save, let alone 3+. Heck, I picked up some Sisters just recently, and I think I see rivets on the cloak.

**Furyou Miko**

The plastic Sisters heads off the Immolator sprue are the same size as each other AND the standard tactical marine helmet AND the standard bare space marine baldy head.

If you use the front half-torso out of the Immolator kit to build a model, you have to use Guardian legs and a fantasy Elf head or it it looks like they're a bobblehead in flare trousers.

As for the armour, half joking, half serious, because honestly, walking around in a badass suit of power armour (with internal cooling or heating system!) would be awesome. But also patently ridiculous.

**Furyou Miko**

I love the original hive tyrant.

Those colours are no longer available, I believe.

**Furyou Miko**

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