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I havent found anything that says otherwise. Can flyers ram immobile objects on the ground? Curious as my opponent last night had an empty drop pod in my deployment zone and I used an empty Dreadclaw that finally arrived to ram it. Only to notice in the rules speed no longer seems to affect the strength of the hit. I saw that tanks give a bonus to strength, and I know Caestus rams have some nice bonuses to ramming. We rolled off and in the spirit of it being a cinematic moment we allowed it to ram and it was a cool effect. But moving almost 36 inches but only having 6 strength seems really weak.

Is it a tank? If not, it can neither tank shock nor ram.

Tanks give a bonus to the strength.

In order to Ram, you must be able to Tank Shock. In order to Tank Shock, you must have either the 'Tank' type or a special rule that would allow a non-'Tank' vehicle to Tank Shock.

Col. Dash wrote:
Tanks give a bonus to the strength.

You have to be a tank to tank shock or ram , or have a special rule allowing you too.

like.. the caestus assault ram.

nosferatu1001 is correct this time. You have to be able to do one before the other unless you have a special rule stating otherwise.

Not too often you see players willing to "roll off for it" when unsure of the rule. Too often anymore the game devolves into arguments. Kudos to you and your opponent for finding an amicable way to handle it temporarily until finding out for sure.

"A Flyer cannot perform a Tank Shock – even if it is also a Tank."
It's right there in the rulebook.

Col. Dash wrote:
But moving almost 36 inches but only having 6 strength seems really weak.

The Caestus would ram with S8 if it could.
13 / 2 = 7 (rounded up). Then you add the +1 from being a Tank for a total of 8.

Kangodo wrote:
"A Flyer cannot perform a Tank Shock – even if it is also a Tank."
It's right there in the rulebook.

Col. Dash wrote:
But moving almost 36 inches but only having 6 strength seems really weak.

The Caestus would ram with S8 if it could.
13 / 2 = 7 (rounded up). Then you add the +1 from being a Tank for a total of 8.

Good thing they removed the travelled distance out of this equation. Didnt notice that change so far!

I don't have the Ram's rule in front of me, but I think it gets melta rule when it rams. I haven't ever used it to ram so I don't know off hand. Kinda silly that other aircraft cant kamikaze ground targets as a last ditch attempt to kill something vital. Oh well I know in the future. The victory point wouldn't have made a difference even if it had survived to get line breaker. 18-5

My group is pretty chill, we tend to go for cinematic effect when its cool over following rules to the letter. We love blowing up LoW just to see the carnage that happens on either side. If someone forgets to move something out of phase we are pretty relaxed about letting them do it in a later step.

Col. Dash wrote:
I don't have the Ram's rule in front of me, but I think it gets melta rule when it rams. I haven't ever used it to ram so I don't know off hand. Kinda silly that other aircraft cant kamikaze ground targets as a last ditch attempt to kill something vital. Oh well I know in the future. The victory point wouldn't have made a difference even if it had survived to get line breaker. 18-5

My group is pretty chill, we tend to go for cinematic effect when its cool over following rules to the letter. We love blowing up LoW just to see the carnage that happens on either side. If someone forgets to move something out of phase we are pretty relaxed about letting them do it in a later step.

It doesnt have melta but rolls 2 dice and picks the higher one for penetration and adds +1 to the damage result roll additionally it has 5++ against all hits on its front armour.