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Ok,

Me and my friend have 1 army, so we always face up against each other. He mostly knows what I will be running as my "core" is rarely changed. However, he either has ridiculously bad luck or I have ridiculously good luck. I win most of the time and I want to see if I can provide him some assistance to make it a more even battle. We played yesterday and it was almost all over by the end of Turn 2.

We rarely complete a full 5 turns, and normally only play 3 turns. We are trying to get quicker to fit more turns in though!

My core is normally:

2x 20 Boyz (Nob, BP/PK)
1x Warboss (PK/EA/CY/SHOOTA)
1x Big Mek (SAG/EA/CY)
10x Loota
1x Dakkajet (+1 TL SS)

I then frequently chuck in:
2x/3x Kannons
3x Deffkopta

I have other stuff that gets mixed in:
1x Dreadnought
1x Trukk (with Tankbustas)
3x-6x Warbikers

We play 1000pts - 1250pts

He has to pick from:

2x Tac Squads
1x (5) Shooty DW Squad
1x (5) DW Knights
1x Belial
1x (3)RW Bike Squad
1x Predator
1x Scouts (Snipers/Camo)
1x Command Squad
1x Chaplain on a bike
1x Librarian
1x Inquisitor Chaplain (I think)

What can he use to more effectively counter?

I normally walk my boyz down the centre (running when unable to shoot)
I put my FA down the flanks and sit at a distance with my Long range weapons.

He normally uses Teleport Beacons to bring his DW down on his Ravenwing, or popping them right by my line, but the second turn they get minced by the Boyz (although the Knights stood their ground well yesterday)

Let him proxy up some drop pods so the 2 tac squads can come in the first turn with the ravenwing. Toilet rolls arn't too bad. Maybe a cup or mug. But be careful, proxying is addictive and one you start it gets harder to justify spending them dollars.

Up the DW shooty squad to 10, have them deepstrike with vengeful strike. Up the bike squad to 6, add an attack bike, and maybe a Land Speeder support or two, with assault cannons and heavy bolters. Then, for God's sakes, get those Knights a Land Raider! They are useless without one.Other than that, pretty good list. Maybe a drop pod and dreadnought or a Land Raider for the Libby and command squad.

Drop dakkajet since he don't have flyers + advice some flamers to him , my Da friend usually kickt my ass in 6 ed can't wait to play him in 7 ed . Revenving are probably the best way for Da

Thanks for the replies!

He said he wanted to get a Drop-pod or a Rhino for transport.

He also said he would love a LR:C but its mostly down to funds. He doesn't want to spend too much more money, so proxying is a good option in the temporary time.

I could also lend him my Looted LR:C seeing as its not in my codex any more :(


My mistake I forgot he DOES have a flyer, its the DA one with the stasis bomb, but I do enjoy the Dakkajet but have considered dropping it of late. (Mainly because he always expects me to take it, I love mixing it up a little!)

I think proxy battling might be a good move in the interim so he can decide what works for him and what to purchase.

His tactic normally seems to be to deepstrike his termies in front of my boyz, his ravenwing to scout the edge or mostly be used for an accurate deepstrike. He normally only runs 1 Tac squad, if he does his Tac squad sit at the back of the battlefield and wait for me to trudge over to him (same tactic for the scouts). I think half his problem is he splits his units up, but I can see what he is trying to do though. Deepstriking for a cheap kill on my lootas or SAG. He tries to divide my army, but he ends up dividing his. In the last game he dropped both his 5 Man terie squads down behind my boyz and did VS into my lootas. The following turn my boyz charged his termies. 1 Boy squad (with Warboss) made good head way against his shooty ones, but the assault ones slowly chewed through my other squad. They lasted alot better, so I think he needs a bit more quantity.

Yeah he has to commit his entire army to sitting back or deep striking. If he does deep strike, I think he could bring three pods along with those terminators and potentially cause some match up issues for your orks.

Something like:

Belial
Tactical Squad in pod x 2
Terminators with HF
Knights with relic
Dreadnought with HF in a pod.

Proxy the pods and get a cheap dreadnought on eBay. Deep striking helps you guys get stuck in right away in a three turn game too.

Banner of Devastation combo is doing great vs footslogging orkses.

Try to bting it to him...he must not spread his forces. If he drops termies + bods, they mustn't go in the middle of your army. But rather on the flank. That's how he will deliver a more devastating positional strike and get some degree of 'return fire' protection.

Stuff like knights is too elitist to fare well vs boyz. Boyz are an excellent tarpit that also packs a punch.