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Hi so ive written a slightly slightly fluffy list of Ravenguard to play at an upcoming tournament at my lgs and I would just like to ask what people think and what suggestions you could make

HQ:
librarian level two mastery
Combi melta
Lightning claws
Jump pack
130 points

Chaplain
Plasma pistol
Teeth of terra
Jump pack
Points 155

TROOPS:
3×scouts
Sniper rifles
Camo cloaks
Missile launcher
Points 255

Scouts
Heavy bolter
Hellfire shells
Shotgun
2x bolters
1x pistol + ccw
Points 68

ELITES:
venerable dreadnought
Tw lascannon
Heavyflamer
Points 160

FAST ATTACK:
assault squad
Veteran sergeant
Thunder hammer
Plasma pistol
Points 135

Assault squad
Veteran sergeant
Power weapon
Plasma pistol
Flamer
Points 130

Stormtalon
Tl lascannon
Points 135

Bikes
Extra guy
2× meltas
Points 104

HEAVY SUPPORT:
Stormraven
Tl lascannon
Tl multi melta
Points 200

Total:1472

So what should I do? I was per haps thinking of dropping some stuff out to take a vindicare or something.

First, Welcome to Dakka.

You are spending a lot more on wargear then you probably need to. And some of your units lack focus.

Librarians come stock with a force weapon, why pay for the lightning claws? And I’d rather just have the extra attack from a bolt pistol then the c-melta, but YMMV.

Chaplain come with a free power maul. While the ToT can be fun, it’s points you don’t need to spend here. Plasma pistols are massively overpriced, but iconic and cool. I like a bare-bones chaplain, with only the jump pack, and maybe a melta bomb.

While your scouts have a nice array of deployment options, once the game starts they are going to have to foot slog it everywhere. If you want to keep the scout centric theme to your army, I might grab a LSS. I like HBs over MLs in scout squads, but you can use the AV. The HB squad is a little all over the place.

The ven dread is the only non-flying vehicle in your list. He is going to draw fire, and probably explode. Also, the TLLC want to sit back, and the HF wants to burn close. If you want a sit back dread, take the ML/TLAC instead of the fist. If you want to mix it up close, go with the MM or AsC.

You have 4 FA picks.

How many points are you willing to spend on a 1 wound model? Particularly one who is going to strike last. Now there is going to be a character in the squad who can accept challenges, so it’s not that bad, but I’d drop everything but basic power weapons from the assault sarges. And you can run double flamers in 5 man squads, which I’d recommend.

I like the skyhammers on a talon, but the LCs work, and you need some strong AV. You might want to consider upgrading this guy to a stormraven, as you are over on FA, but have HS to spare.

Fast melta is a good thing, like the bikes. You might consider a MM attack bike, or a c-melta on the sarge. You need 3-4 melta shots to reliably pop tanks.

Raven is fine.

Overall I like the structure of your list, but think you spent far to much on toys. The dread seems out of place. He fits a bit better thematically if he’s hitching a ride on the raven, but I’m not a big fan of reserving that much in one basket.

Some of the odd weapon choices i made like the Dread and HB scouts is down to my own lack of models in those areas. Also thanks for pointing out the FA mistake.

I decided on the lightning claws and ToT mainly because i want my assault marines to get in first turn so i spent a little bit more on the hq to give them some extra cc killing power.

Also my libby is actually my shadow captain who i like to run with that wargear hence lightning claws but for the tournament id rather have the psychic powers.

i was thinking:

Drop the stormtalon

Switch the TLLC for a TLAC

Combi melta on bike serge

add LSS with MM

replace TH with PW on assault squad

then either 5 man tac with plasma and a TLLC razorback

or

Pred with TLLC and HB

Vindicator