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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/09/19 17:20:51
Subject: Which is the most useful ork plane now?
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Speed Drybrushing
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I've got a Dakkajet set I'd like to build, but I'm torn as yo which of the three I should build.
The Dakkajet is okay, but I can get str 6 or better shots from somewhere else en masse.
The big bomb looks cool, but there are only two of them and my scatter dice may work against me.
The burner bommer looks thematically cool, esp in a Burna/template army, but it gets really expensive quick for an arm10 flyer and the ap is week
What have you guys had success with?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/09/19 17:45:20
Subject: Which is the most useful ork plane now?
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Dakka Veteran
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Individually, they aren't really that good. The blitz-bommer has surprised me recently; however, it all depends on how good you are at rolling the chart. One nice thing about the dakkajet is Strafing Run for the extra BS when shooting at specific ground units.
One thing a fellow ork player has been trying out at my FLGS is the Air Armada formation from the Hour of the Wolf book. 5 Flyers but the 1 Blitz and 1 Burna bommer in the formation can replenish their one use only weapons which adds to their effectiveness a bit.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/09/19 20:57:57
Subject: Which is the most useful ork plane now?
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Gargantuan Gargant
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Personally I've found lately that the Blitza Bomma's changes to large blast AP2 and armourbane have been amazing, my last game with one against Grey Knights led to him consistently blasting a good chunk of Grey Knight Terminators who were bunched up after deep-striking behind my lines and severely limiting their firepower by wiping out their pyscannons thanks to the Bomb's wounds being taken from the middle of the template like Barrage. It really gives a surprisingly reliable (for Orks anyways) source of non-Gets Hot! AP2 blast weaponry that can handle both vehicles and heavy infantry incredibly well. The Dakkajet is a close second but unfortunately the price bumps and nerfs to the WAAAGH! plane rule means that they're best used in conjunction with the formations with the WAAAGH! every turn after the first rule.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/09/21 04:35:18
Subject: Which is the most useful ork plane now?
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Big Mek in Kustom Dragster with Soopa-Gun
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Technically all 3 are bad, dakkajet got neutered during the waaagh! and a small price hike. however it can still function, just dont expect it to win games for you. equal points deffkoptas do more damage....bigshoota or rokkits doesnt matter...and are actually more resilient lol (barring bad LD luck). Blitzabomma is honestly one of those underdog units. Everybody expects it to be a flop because its not a dakkajet so they ignore it - then the bomb explodes something. S7 AP2 Armorbane has a hard time cracking most vehicles that we wouldnt be able to shoot anyway (thinking AV13/14 here) but 9/10 of the time i bring one it usually bombs a unit with a 2+ save and WRECKS them. However i only feel its usefulness will be as long as people dont think its a threat. Once it gets recognition, its toast. Thats why i stopped bringing mine lol my flgs started focusing that thing immediately. Burnaboma is a joke as always. Fires limited small blasts on a BS2 model and is expensive as holy hell to do so. Yes, it ignores cover, but its ap is crap and doesnt pen most units. If it was maybe HALF the cost i'd use it...but not for damn near 200pts lol (thats with 6 missiles) EDIT: On the blitza bomma, i would regularly have opponents deepstrike a termie blob when my blitza bomma hasnt come on the board yet, or has an angle on them. Any idea how much that pisses people off when a 5-6 man termie blob dies in 1 shot lol
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2014/09/21 04:36:58
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/09/21 18:44:11
Subject: Re:Which is the most useful ork plane now?
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!!Goffik Rocker!!
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Theoretically, Dakkajet can alwayz fire 9 shots if you're using an eternal waaagh detachment (i bet you ain't) or greentide (now that's more likely). But in all fairness, you can get stuff that's much more effective than any of theese plains.
If you want to measure their effectiveness in vacuum, i'd say that blitza bomber is the best. Just cause it provides a unique s7 ap2 armor-bane large blast with a relatively low scatter. Dakkajet goes second cause it can shoot like a warwalker...well, like a single super-overpriced warwalker but still. Burna bomber simply has no place cause it's way harder to get 2+ or 3+ cover now.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/09/22 07:46:47
Subject: Which is the most useful ork plane now?
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Ork Admiral Kroozin Da Kosmos on Da Hulk
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Vineheart01 wrote:Technically all 3 are bad, dakkajet got neutered during the waaagh! and a small price hike. however it can still function, just dont expect it to win games for you. equal points deffkoptas do more damage....bigshoota or rokkits doesnt matter...and are actually more resilient lol (barring bad LD luck).
Blitzabomma is honestly one of those underdog units. Everybody expects it to be a flop because its not a dakkajet so they ignore it - then the bomb explodes something. S7 AP2 Armorbane has a hard time cracking most vehicles that we wouldnt be able to shoot anyway (thinking AV13/14 here) but 9/10 of the time i bring one it usually bombs a unit with a 2+ save and WRECKS them. However i only feel its usefulness will be as long as people dont think its a threat. Once it gets recognition, its toast. Thats why i stopped bringing mine lol my flgs started focusing that thing immediately.
Burnaboma is a joke as always. Fires limited small blasts on a BS2 model and is expensive as holy hell to do so. Yes, it ignores cover, but its ap is crap and doesnt pen most units. If it was maybe HALF the cost i'd use it...but not for damn near 200pts lol (thats with 6 missiles)
EDIT: On the blitza bomma, i would regularly have opponents deepstrike a termie blob when my blitza bomma hasnt come on the board yet, or has an angle on them. Any idea how much that pisses people off when a 5-6 man termie blob dies in 1 shot lol
There is little reason to give burna bommer more than four missiles though. While they are still very inefficient in a TAC list, they pretty much murder medium infantry. I had a pair of them take out thirty necron warriors in a single turn, the opponent conceded right after.
Not something you want to have on the board when facing marines or eldar though. Armor kills it.
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7 Ork facts people always get wrong:
Ragnar did not win against Thrakka, but suffered two crushing defeats within a few days of each other.
A lasgun is powerful enough to sever an ork's appendage or head in a single, well aimed shot.
Orks meks have a better understanding of electrics and mechanics than most Tech Priests.
Orks actually do not think that purple makes them harder to see. The joke was made canon by Alex Stewart's Caphias Cain books.
Gharkull Blackfang did not even come close to killing the emperor.
Orks can be corrupted by chaos, but few of them have any interest in what chaos offers.
Orks do not have the power of believe. |
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