Mavlun wrote:Hi,
Just curious as to how the Immovable Object warlord trait would work on a
CCB. Would the
IWND apply to both the rider as well as the chariot, seeing as how they're one single unit? Ergo, if you've lost a hullpoint turn 1, you can roll for
IWND, then turn 2 say you lose 1 wound, and you can choose to roll
IWND for that wound?
Thx.
I like that you haven't assumed that you can get 2
IWND rolls in the same turn - 1 for the warlord and 1 for the chariot.
Since most of us don't have chariots, here are some
BRB rules to expedite discussions:
The different types of vehicle are: Chariot
So it IS a vehicle. Like a walker it can also assault and lock people in
CC.
Immovable Object Warloard trait:
Your Warlord has the Fearless and It Will Not Die special rules.
So if we are looking for strict
RAW interpretations, the warlord has the trait, not the model (which normally wouldn't matter).
A Chariot is an unusual unit with a dual profile – a non-vehicle profile for the rider of the Chariot (see below), and a vehicle profile for the Chariot itself. However, a Chariot is always treated as a single model.
So we have a dual profile, one with the
IWND rule (the warlord) and one profile without it (the chariot). We also have a rule that says treat the "Chariot" as a single model, not "the warlord and the chariot', much less the simpler "the unit" as a single model. Semantics can be argued here, but I think that is all
RAI not
RAW.
IWND:
At the end of each of your turns, roll a D6 for each of your models with this special rule that has less than its starting number of Wounds or Hull Points, but has not been removed as a casualty or destroyed. On a roll of 5+, that model regains a Wound, or Hull Point, lost earlier in the game.
So the question here really is two questions:
1) If my warlord has the
IWND rule, does any vehicle he is in gain that rule?
2) More specifically, does a chariot gain that rule?
I think it's clear nothing gives him the ability to convey
IWND to a vehicle he embarks on, so #1 is "no" but Chariots are a different case.
If we look at Chariot special rules we see:
A Chariot has the Hammer of Wrath special rule, but gains D6 attacks rather than one,
The relevant question then becomes:
If a model has a dual profile, do special rules from one profile always convey to the other?
If
IWND is conveyed to the chariot, I think that that
HoW would have to be conveyed to the rider as well. I don't think that makes any sense, so I'd say no on the
IWND benefiting the chariot since I don't think you can coherently argue that special rules are conveyed from A to B but not B to A without splitting some pretty fine hairs.