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Nemesor

Obyron

14 warriors
night scythe

10 warriors

10 death marks

5 praetoians

7 lychguard
dispersion shield

3 tomb blades
shadowloom

any assistance is welcomed

I love the combination of Zahndrekh and Obyron.

14 Warriors in a Nightscythe? I'm guessing that Zahndrekh is in that unit, but he won't be on the table to use his special abilities. Put the Deathmarks in the Nightscythe and they'll be able to apply their power a bit more directly.
Speaking of the deathmarks, I'd split them into units of 5. That way, you get two marked units. Either squad gets the +2 to wound against ANY marked unit. Score there.
Praetorians aren't great. Wraiths are simply better at that roll.
Lychguard are the unit that you want to see do well, but they just don't that often. They will be more useful since I see Oberyon veiling them around.
I really like tomblades... you need to keep them cheap and use them to quickly score objectives and then bug out.

Overall, I think you need to add some vehicles. 2 Ghost Arks would help you greatly... so would 2 Annihilation Barges. A lot of armies struggle to deal with our initial AV13 (as long as we keep out of CC with the vehicles). I'd also like to see you get another Nightscythe down the road. Harbingers of Despair go really well with your Deathmarks. Harbingers of the Storm go great inside a Ghost Ark with some warriors.

oay and im avioding to many vehicles for now just in terms of transport =P i plan to add a few when i go up in points

Vehicles are the best things in the Necron codex.
With only one of the key ones (Annihilation Barges, Ghost Arks, Night Scythes, Catacomb Command Barge) you're going to really struggle... especially seeing as how you've got one of the worst units in the codex eating up so much of your points (Lychguard are bad).

Lol you doing necron troops wrong.

Option 1 5 warriors in a night scythe

option 2 5 warriors in a ghost arc

option 3 Refer to option 1 and 2

seriously we are kinda the Parkinglot(runway?) of the xenos. make use of it

 keltikhoa wrote:
Lol you doing necron troops wrong.

Option 1 5 warriors in a night scythe

option 2 5 warriors in a ghost arc

option 3 Refer to option 1 and 2

Those may be the best two options, there are still other viable ways to run troops.
• 15 to 20 on foot with a ResOrb bearer (bonus points if accompanied by Ghost Ark)
• 7 to 10 Immortals with a Veil-tek (best Maelstrom objective capturing unit we've got)

thanks for the advice i am trying to keep to a more fluff based army and seeing as Nemesor sees all enemies as necrons he wont use dirty tactics along with he has legions of lych guard so with this in mind could some one help write a list and dont worry about space i mainly verse chaos

I kinda feel like I'm advocating throwing good money after bad...
Have you thought of deep striking a pair of monoliths into your opponents backfield?

There plenty of ways to run necrons that aren't only 5 man units of warriors in vehicles.

As stated 20 man units with res orbs and ghost arch backup are really tough to crack(except in assault). I also believe triarch stalkers, twin linked everything, have a place in a foot slogging army. Doomsday archs and monoliths can take advantage of this better than annihilation barges.

The problem with this is if you are taking 3 annihilation barges then much of your heavy firepower is already twin linked. Additionally you can have nightsythes, which is the only way to no scatter deployment with necrons, again you are already twin linked.

There is almost no better feeling in the world than walking up the field with a 20 man warrior squad and nemesor and a ghost arch and stalker. Twin linked tank hunter 20 man gauss can really deal out the damage and take it in return. This core with some kind of heavy support and maybe wraith for a cc units/tarpit can be very viable, just not the most competitive with changes to chariots and the cheapness of annihilation barges.


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Not to mention things like lords of war, transcendent ctan. Harbingers of the storm with their haywire staves and harbingers of destruction to give you vehicles +3 jink, cryptecks with veil of darkness and Deathmarks. The necron codex is full of strong units.


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Triarch Pretorians are a difficult unit to get their points back, with only a 3+ armor save and a super close range weapon they only excel when they can set up a charge, you also want to stick a destroyer lord in here to give them preffered enemy and the ability to carry a res orb. He only viable option for them is the rod of the covenant.

Lychgaurd have the same problem, the sword/sheild combo is awful, the rebounding shots are never very helpful and they are very exposed prior to assualt, the can veil around with vargaurd obyron but when they do they just have to sit and wait to be shot, if you opponent realizes that they are a 600 point unit(no including another overlord which I would recommend for he phase shifter tank, he will target you with everything he/she has and they won't see a single round of combat.

Fraserb775 wrote:
he has legions of lych guard so with this in mind could some one help write a list

So you want someone to write up a list for you, using the second worst unit in the codex as the cornerstone of your army?
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Well, good luck with that.

Let me try something:
Zahndrekh and Oberyon
Triarch Stalker with TL Heavy Gauss
10 immortals w/ Oberyon
20 Warriors w/ Zahndrekh
2 Monoliths
And a Firestorm Redoubt with 2x Quad Icarus Lascannons for Zahndrekh to cozy up in.
Comes to 1540, so you have some wiggle room.

You have anti-air with the Redoubt and some added protection for your warlord there too. You have enough low AP shooting for a Knight or Land Raider wrapped up in the AV14 Monolith... which you can twin-link (blast template twin-linking) with the Stalker at 36 inches.
I wish that more troops could fit... I'd like another 20 blob and Overlord with resorb, or two more full squads of immortals... c'est le vie

i think maybe avoid the monolith s we are both new to 40 k we ar avoidin the apocolapse unit for now =P
and it need at least 1 unit of lych guard for fluff

Monolith is standard Codex.
Speaking of which, we are slated to get a new codex... soon. After the Dark Eldar release, it is only us and Blood Angels with the softcover codicies. Who knows... Lychguard might be good in the new codex.

I'm actually holding off on buying anything for my Necrons until I see what happens with a codex. At that point, everything that we've told you could be utter bunk. *shrug*

PS... you say 'We'... who are you playing with, and what armies do they play? Such things can help us make fun/good lists.

Chaos, necrons, blood angels, tyranids, tau are the forces i verse.

I think im still going to stay away from it to start with =P i prefer a more maneuverable force but needs unit of lcyhguard

... why are you so hung up on Lychguard?
We've been trying to warn you about how bad they are this entire thread, but you seem dead set on using them.

Let me do some thinking outloud... so to speak. Pipe in if my thoughts are off base.
Chaos, necrons, and blood angels are basically marine, 3+ armies. Unfortuantely, most of our AP 1, 2, and 3 shooting is on our vehicles. You will need to rely on sheer number of shots to do the damage. Twin-linking will help, but you will still need them to fail 3+ armor saves.
Tyranids, and Tau... we have better luck there. They have worse armor saves on the whole. If tau play a Crisis Suit army then you have the same situation as above... you need to make them fail 3+ armor saves. On the other hand, our gauss flayer negates a kroot or firewarrior's armor save pretty easily.
As for vehicles, we have the tools to take out most vehicles. The one area I've had trouble is AV12 flyers. One Night Scythe can take down a storm raven... but you need to have luck and timing on your side. Remember that skyfire also fires at skimmers with full balistic skill... something to remember against a Tau, Necron, Dark Eldar/Eldar opponent.
Monsterous creatures and Flying Monstrous creatures are also an issue... Nids can spring that on you pretty bad. Warscythes are great there... but we suffer at initiative 2. We do literally get killed before we can swing in combat. Deathmarks are what I normally take for MC killing, but Zahndrekh disapproves of their methods (Oberyon though seems to employ them behind Zahndrekh's back).

To make the most use out of Zahndrekh's ability, he needs to be able to see most of the field. You can place him with a unit of lychguard on top of a bastion or Firestorm redoubt... I'd use quad guns there. A lot of people would replace the lychguard with Immortals, but to each their own. It is fluffy this way since they are 'body guards' anyay.

I like the idea of Oberyon escorting a unit of Deathmarks around the board. There is your maneuverable MC killing. Oberyon can tank for the Deathmarks the turn after arriving, and then split off to take care of whatever else needs some Warscythe attention. You could even take the Night scythe with this unit... it isn't as if the deathmarks have to deploy inside of it.
For troops, I'd like to have 9 or 10 man squads in Ghost Arks... then throw in a stormtek or destructek for some added punch. Oh well.
Need scarabs... people have an irrational fear of scarabs.

Zahndrekh and Oberyon with a Royal Court lord (mss, Res orb, SW and Warscythe)
7 deathmarks
5 lychguard with sword and board
19 Warriors
5 warriors in the Night Scythe
8 scarab swarms
3 tomblades
A firestorm redoubt with 2x Quad Icarus lascannons.
total 1600 points
You could drop a few warriors or scarabs along the way to give the redoubt a void shield. You could save 50 points and get a bastion with a single quad icarus lascannon... or drop the business together, but then you'll need to add some anti-air.

Or, since I've spend so much brain energy on this post, I'll finish by saying... take a Transcendent C'tan, and don't worry about what is in the rest of your army.... :-P

Skoffs i know you have said this but if you read zahndrekhs law he has legions of lychguard and Anpu i though i made it clear no deathmarks. thanks for the tips im just going to write up a list with help from the local store guys

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Well, good luck with that, then.

skoffs is right, Lychguard are quite bad.

If you're dead set on using them, don't give them the Shields, if you have to use the Invulnerable save (you're probably more likely to take the 3+ Armour Save) you've got a 50% chance of losing a model.

Warscythes would be better for them, especially if you could get them close to Vehicles without getting shot at ie Nightscythes to drop them off in cover blocking LOS.