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So rereading the daemon unit entries and I noticed that heralds are limited to only 4 per detachment. All 4 take up only 1 slot, but you can only have 4 per detachment. Has anyone else been playing this wrong and taking 5+ heralds? Any opinions or changes to this that I missed?

 Caboose wrote:
So rereading the daemon unit entries and I noticed that heralds are limited to only 4 per detachment. All 4 take up only 1 slot, but you can only have 4 per detachment. Has anyone else been playing this wrong and taking 5+ heralds? Any opinions or changes to this that I missed?

You get 4 heralds for a HQ slot.

2 HQ slots = 8 heralds.

Chaos Daemons codex Page 94: "Each Primary(FAQ deletes this word) detachment in your army may include up to four Heralds of Chaos, chosen in any combination from the following models:"

Then it lists the Heralds, then it says this:

"This selection uses a single HQ slot from the Force Organization chart, but the Heralds are otherwise treated as separate units"

So the whole thing tells you that you may have 4 per HQ slot.

Yes you can take 4 heralds in one HQ slot, and you have two available HQ slots.

But you're still limited to 4 heralds per detachment, so if you take 4 in one HQ slot you can't have any in the other.

The only way to have 5+ heralds is to take another detachment.

 Tonberry7 wrote:
But you're still limited to 4 heralds per detachment, so if you take 4 in one HQ slot you can't have any in the other.

That is not true as per the rules I posted.

If you include 5 heralds, have you included up to four?

nosferatu1001 wrote:
If you include 5 heralds, have you included up to four?

Yes, in a single HQ slot.

and up to 4 in a different single HQ slot.

It is a whole rule not a separate one.

each detachment may include 4 heralds for 1 HQ slot.

 DeathReaper wrote:

nosferatu1001 wrote:
If you include 5 heralds, have you included up to four?

Yes, in a single HQ slot.

and up to 4 in a different single HQ slot.

It is a whole rule not a separate one.

each detachment may include 4 heralds for 1 HQ slot.

No, each detachment may include up to 4 heralds. You could have 4 in one slot, 2 each in 2 slots, 3 in one slot and 1 in another, but you're still limited to 4 per detachment.

 DeathReaper wrote:

nosferatu1001 wrote:
If you include 5 heralds, have you included up to four?

Yes, in a single HQ slot.

and up to 4 in a different single HQ slot.

It is a whole rule not a separate one.

each detachment may include 4 heralds for 1 HQ slot.

No, it is 2 rules

Each detachment may include up to 4 heralds.

END SENTENCE

This selection takes up one HQ slot.

Two rules, with two effects. This does NOT say "you may include up to 4 heralds per HQ slot", which is the rule youre trying to claim is the case.

Ok, so I'm not crazy. That IS what it says, and it sounds like I'm not the only one who read it wrong.

You could theoretically take 8 heralds in one army, it would require a regular + allied detachment, or a regular + regular detachment. You could not do it in a normal detachment as per the rules written in the book. The rules state that 4 heralds take up a single HQ spot, however, the rules specifically limit 4 heralds per detachment. Therefore you could not take two HQ spots with 4 heralds each because that would break the limit of 4 heralds per detachment.

thisisnotpancho wrote:
require a regular + allied detachment

Can't use an Allied Detachment of the same Faction, so would need to be 2xCAD.