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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/09/25 02:53:39
Subject: [DZC] Expanding from the UCM starter
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Regular Dakkanaut
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I'm looking at expanding from the UCM starter set, to a 999 point army. Playing around with FFOR the following list comes in at 997 points. I'm wondering if it has too much infantry (I've played one game so far, and infantry was a key part of that) and if I should potentially swap one of the Troops selections to an Armored Formation.
Armored Formation [308 pts]
Sabre Squad: 3x Sabre, Condor [142 pts]
Rapier Squad: 3x Rapier, Condor [166 pts]
Legionnaire Corps [160 pts]
Legionnaires: 2x Legionnaires, Raven A [80 pts]
Legionnaires: 2x Legionnaires, Raven A [80 pts]
Legionnaire Corps [219 pts]
Legionnaires: 3x Legionnaires, Condor, 2x Bear [141 pts]
^ Sharing ^ Legionnaires: 3x Legionnaires [78 pts]
Expeditionary Group [310 pts]
Praetorians: 2x Praetorians, Raven A(Lieutenant, +Missile Pods) [192 pts]
Wolverine Squad: 4x Wolverine A, 2x Raven B(+Missile Pods) [118 pts]
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/09/25 04:44:21
Subject: Re:[DZC] Expanding from the UCM starter
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Actually that's pretty close to what I run for a 1000 pt Clash army. The main difference is I need a command group, so instead of the Expeditionary Group I have a Field Command with a Kodiak w/Squad Leader and a Ferrum.
Troops win the game, so I'd say those aren't a problem. I'm iffy on the Praetorians at this point level personally.
This is a useful guide for expanding everything but Resistance, which I'm personally following.
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2014/09/25 04:45:19
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/09/25 07:00:49
Subject: [DZC] Expanding from the UCM starter
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Looks like most of what I'd figured out on my own, except I don't like the look of the Ferrum, so I might grab something else there.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/09/25 11:10:33
Subject: [DZC] Expanding from the UCM starter
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Yeah I wasn't too hot on the look of the Ferrum initially either, but I gradually warmed up to it.
You could probably get away with replacing it with a pack of Wolverines.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/09/25 13:32:30
Subject: [DZC] Expanding from the UCM starter
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Hungry Little Ripper
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Is it the plastic starter set? If so you can also use the third bear Apc as a Kodiak command unit.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/09/25 19:44:34
Subject: Re:[DZC] Expanding from the UCM starter
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Sybarite Swinging an Agonizer
Charleston, SC
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Your list will absolutely dominate the infantry game (my typical suggestion is 1 infantry squad + 1 for each 500 points), but you will be slaughtered in armored combat. You will need to be prepared to use your phoenix missiles as three sabres are tough, but will be quickly outgunned and overwhelmed.
Edit: One huge suggestion! I just noticed that your commander is in a Raven A with praetorians that has missile pods. This is a recipe for disaster! Raven As are exceptionally fragile, praetorians should be taking the fight to the enemy, and firing a missile pod at something means that they can shoot you back. I suggest sticking those missile pods on the sabre's condor and putting your commander in the condor for the rapiers. The sabre condor can go hunting after it drops off your battle tanks and your rapier condor should be holding back for emergency AA redeployment. The condor also has three damage points to the raven's one.
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2014/09/25 19:52:17
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/10/09 00:05:45
Subject: [DZC] Expanding from the UCM starter
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PanOceaniac Hacking Specialist Sergeant
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That may even be a bit too much infantry! Agreed with earlier statements on Raven As, which are useful but fragile (and high priority targets).
It looks like you could use more tank fighting power though. 3 Sabres are good, but 6 is far better. It'll give you a fighting chance against PHR walkers then.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/10/09 10:59:30
Subject: Re:[DZC] Expanding from the UCM starter
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Current list:
Armored Formation [510 pts]
Sabre Squad: 6x Sabre, 2x Condor [284 pts]
Rapier Squad: 3x Rapier, Condor(Lieutenant) [226 pts]
Legionnaire Corps [160 pts]
Legionnaires: 2x Legionnaires, Raven A [80 pts]
Legionnaires: 2x Legionnaires, Raven A [80 pts]
Legionnaire Corps [219 pts]
Legionnaires: 3x Legionnaires, Condor, 2x Bear [141 pts]
^ Sharing ^ Legionnaires: 3x Legionnaires [78 pts]
Expeditionary Group [108 pts]
Wolverine Squad: 6x Wolverine A [108 pts]
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/10/09 20:29:51
Subject: [DZC] Expanding from the UCM starter
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Hungry Little Ripper
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Is the LT in the condor or one of the rapiers? In the condor they are kind of vulnerable to AA. The condor does have 3 DP but with 5 A it does not take much to down. You certainly have objectives covered with all of that infantry!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/10/10 08:12:08
Subject: [DZC] Expanding from the UCM starter
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Regular Dakkanaut
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The LT is in the Condor, the hope being that he can hang around at the back and measure SOI from the Wolverines.
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