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Servoarm Flailing Magos





Alaska

As opposed to a normal army list thread, I thought it would be more beneficial to hear tips on utilizing the units I plan to incorporate. My list is mainly thematic, and centered on models I have available (just getting back into 40k for the 1st time since 5th edition). So playing against a space marine character of unknown founding, how can I use this list best? What do I need to watch for? I don't think air is in my local group's meta very strongly, but it could be... How do I best counter it?

New Roster (1979pts)

Black Legion (2013) Roster (Combined Arms Detachment)

HQ (265)

Abaddon the Despoiler
Champion of Chaos, Eternal Warrior, Fearless, Independent Character, Mark of Chaos Ascendant, Veterans of the Long War, Warlord Traits: Black Crusader

Elites (401)

Chaos Terminators x3
Bringers of Despair, Mark of Nurgle, Veteran of the Long War
Chainfist, Combi-melta, -flamer, -plasma, Powerfist
Terminator Champion
Combi-flamer, -melta, or plasma, Lightning Claw

Helbrute
Multi-melta, Power fist

Helbrute
Power fist, Twin-linked lascannon

Troops (1155pts)

Chaos Cultists
Champion of Chaos
17x Autogun, 2x Heavy stubber
Champion's upgrade
Cultist Champion's Shotgun
20x Squad models (champion included)
20x Mark of Tzeentch

Chaos Cultists
Champion of Chaos
17x Autopistol, 2x Flamer, 20x Squad models (champion included)
Champion's upgrade
Cultist Champion's Shotgun

Chosen (Troops)
5x Chosen (), Mark of Khorne (), Replace all weapons w/ Twin Lightning Claws (), Replace CCW w/ Power Fist (), Replace CCW w/ Power Weapon (), Veterans of the Long War ()
Chosen Champion ()
Champion of Chaos
Bolt Pistol, Bolter, Power Weapon ()

Chosen (Troops) ()
5x Chosen (), Mark of Khorne (), Replace all weapons w/ Twin Lightning Claws (), Replace CCW w/ Power Fist (), Replace CCW w/ Power Weapon (), Veterans of the Long War ()
Chosen Champion ()
Champion of Chaos
Bolt Pistol, Bolter, Power Weapon ()

Chosen (Troops) ()
9x Chosen (), Meltagun (), Replace boltgun w/ Plasma gun (), Veterans of the Long War ()
Chosen Champion ()
Champion of Chaos
Bolt Pistol, Power Weapon ()

Chosen (Troops) ()
9x Chosen (), Meltagun (), Replace boltgun w/ Plasma gun (), Veterans of the Long War ()
Chosen Champion ()
Champion of Chaos
Bolt Pistol, Power Weapon ()

Heavy Support (158pts)

Obliterators ()
Bulky, Daemon, Deep Strike, Obliterator Weapons, Slow and Purposeful
Mark of Nurgle (), 2x Obliterator (), Veteran of The Long War ()

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well i would give chainfist instead of lighting claws,because you have to find a way to kill wraithknights and imperail knights
   
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Painlord Titan Princeps of Slaanesh





so multiple squads of 5 chosen are going to foot slog to the enemy and claw their face off?

I played in 5th, and I understand how enemies would move 12" and assault 12" and get in your face turn 1 so your chosen dont have to walk very far.

The squads of 9 only use one melta and plasma? No rhino?

You might as well run regular csm.

Look, I dunno what kind of meta you faced in 5th ed, but I used to run 6 Chosen, 5 Melta guns, champ with a combi melta in a rhino with a combi melta. I would have 3 of those squads in reserve ready to outflank the enemy. This tactic does not work anymore.

If you do not like rhinos then I suggest:
spaming 5 Chosen, 1 lascannon or missile launchers for a mini gunline. Also give them a flamer or 2 if you get charged to much. Also hide behind a aegis defense line with a quad gun.

If you get rhinos, then the base A2 of chosen is very good.

10 Chosen, MoK, IoE, maybe a pow sword not on champ, Rhino with dirge caster.

   
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Infiltrating Broodlord





Oklahoma City

If you can find a third helbrute of any kind, you can run the Murderpack formation I believe which be very beneficial to your list. I could be wrong, I don't play CSM, just what I've heard on the grapevine.

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