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I adored the first game, really thought it was a pure gem. Was very disappointed in the second however, thought it smaller, more limiting, less exciting and less likeable characters.
Hopefully they go back to the roots.
Automatically Appended Next Post: Release date is Nov 7th I think?
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Dman137 wrote:
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However, the stars are aligning right for this third installment.
I actually liked 2 and the good things it was trying to do, but like many I could see all the problems. I was burned like many others and was going to hold off entirely.
This time around though, there's the fact that it's gotten a full 3 year development span this time. A lot of what they're showing and talking about goes directly against the problems of DA2, which stemmed from that game's horrid attempt at being a yearly franchise.
Now I kind of wish someone could get the Dragon Age license for a good miniature game. There's so many factions now it could actually work.
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Well, we do know that Hawke is back. Say what you will about DA2 as a whole, Hawke's story was interesting.
Not sure what Gaider did to piss everyone off though.
I'm at the point where I know I'm going to buy DA3. However, I will not pre-order it and will still wait for after release reviews. If there's good pre-order DLC like they always do, I'll just buy it. Heck, I still have leftover Bioware points. I would rather pay them extra for a good game from the very start, than risk funding an incomplete or rushed game like DA2 was.
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Hawke was a pretty generic guy imo. I don't recall him being anything special...he basically is a refugee who got in a city with a 99% crime rate. He had no character whatsover :(
And iirc, Bioware said that Hawke will make a return.
Agreed, Sigvatr. Hawke is a Shepherd-style non-character: too generic to be interesting and too pre-written to be customizable. They are going this route again in DA3, right down to the dialog wheel.
Gaider wrote DA3 btw and hey guess what there is another gay male mage companion (although this one is gay even if you play a lady).
I wonder if anything the player does in DA3 will matter or if it will be like DA2.
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I'm looking forward to this. I loved the first one, apart from the player character. DA2 was the opposite. I LOVED Hawke's character. There was a distinct sense that he/she wasn't just doing what he/she did to save everything and everyone ever. H/shee was just making the best choice out of what he was given. And that humanises him/her. If DA3 captures that, with the gameplay aspects of the first one, it'll be perfect.
I'm pretty stoked about this honestly as I was a fan of the past two (and all of their DLC). Interested in seeing the 'open world' they're going on about along with the new companions.
Apparently, not only Hawke reappears but so does your Warden from DA:O.
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I'll get it. I loved the first one and at least enjoyed the second one. I hope this one doesn't follow the trend of dumbing down that most RPGs seem to be embracing. But it probably will.
Is all the DLC free? That is one of the things I hated in DA: All this content that was hidden behind an invisible paywall. Expansions are ok, but when I would run into the beginning of quest and the game start asking me for more money, I was livid.
AdeptSister wrote: Is all the DLC free? That is one of the things I hated in DA: All this content that was hidden behind an invisible paywall. Expansions are ok, but when I would run into the beginning of quest and the game start asking me for more money, I was livid.
It appears to be the version of the game without DLC.
I don't think you'll miss much, though. Off the top of my head -
- Shale isn't available (which is unfortunate, as Shale's an amusing black humor character)
- The Warden's Keep is unavailable; it's a small dungeon with some unique content, but doesn't really add anything to the plot iirc (it also cuts out the "Not-Baby Clark Kent" easter egg random encounter)
- A DLC made available shortly after release allowed you to go back to an early game location; this won't be available. Oddly enough, this *might* be useful lore-wise in Dragon Age Inquisition, as some very interesting bits of information concerning Fereldan and Orlais were discovered in this DLC. There's a possibility that this will come back up again in Inquisition.
The other DLC stuff is either in-game items (such as the Blood Dragon armor, which is also available in ME2 and DA2 if you bought the DLC for DA:O) or not playable within the main scenario - i.e. stuff like Leilani's Song, Awakenings (which is the Expansion), etc...
It appears that the game is only available through the 14th. You can register for the game now on Origin, and download it later (i.e. after the 14th) if you so choose.
Edit - I don't know whether there are hints about missing content with Shale and The Warden's Keep. Both were available at launch to anyone who pre-ordered (which I did). I do know that you won't notice that the third DLC is absent. I finished the game before it was released, and there no hooks within the game tied to it until Bioware released it later on (the trigger for it is a random encounter on the road).
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With Shale, you will find the NPC that will sell you the control rod if you don't have the DLC, but attempting to buy it instead brings up a notice that you need the DLC to purchase and use the item.
Likewise, iirc, you can get the opening conversation about the Warden's Keep from the merchant guy that triggers the quest, but once the conversation ends, you get the pop-up that the quest is part of a DLC.
Basically, you get the "hook" for the adventure that gets you Shale (or the Keep), but it is clearly advertised to you that this requires a specific DLC.
It is best to be a pessimist. You are usually right and, when you're wrong, you're pleasantly surprised.
Lame about how they try to push the DLC on you, but you are essentially getting an entire standalone game for FREE.
Some of us paid the full $50 for it and still got our money's worth.
So try it for free already.
The DLC is there if you like the base enough that you think you want to pay the devs something.
Likewise, for Dragon Age Inquisition, they've stated from the beginning they're not going to put companions behind the DLC wall again, at least not anyone critical to the story. They've followed through with that since there's no DLC companions, no one locked behind pre-orders.
The game also has had a full 3 year development time, unlike DA2, which is the one most people had a problem with.
^^ agreed.
DA1 was a really awesome game, releasing it for free is cool, a few people I know didnt pick it up at the time (for shame) but now get to experience it.
Personally I couldnt care about the DLC or not.
I just hope they go back to the style of 1 rather than 2 for Inquisition.
Dman137 wrote:
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I've not pre-ordered it this time based solely on how DA2 turned out, but from all I've seen and read so far, it should be better this time around. It also had a lot more development time, so it shouldn't feel as rushed as the 2nd game. I also recall they said that DA3 is supposed to hit somewhere in the middle of Origins and DA2, being a happy medium that combines the best elements of both. Still waiting for a review first, just in case.
I shouldn't bash DA2 too much, though. It fell very short of the awesomeness that was Origins, but when viewed on its own and without these ultimately disappointed expectations, it's still a good game that had great characters and some amazing writing.
Oh ... and DA3 will apparently feature co-op multiplayer. Curious how that will turn out to be. I've sunk many, many hours into ME3's multiplayer, and I'm eager to see if my current Dragon Age pen&paper RPG group will be able to recreate the party in the video game for some co-op action.
Also lol @ "here's a free game for you!" - "does it have all DLC?" - "uh .. no?" - "this sucks!"
I must be the only mofo on the planet who liked DA2. Any of you ever been inside a warehouse? You seen one, you've seen 'em flippin' all. They're big, empty rooms stacked with random crap.
DA3 MP sounds interesting. I had a lot of fun with ME3s, and I thought the mechanic was pretty brilliant.
It is best to be a pessimist. You are usually right and, when you're wrong, you're pleasantly surprised.
Psienesis wrote:I must be the only mofo on the planet who liked DA2.
Nah. I actually "grew into it" - it just took time to see the game's own values over what I was missing from Origins!
Psienesis wrote:I had a lot of fun with ME3s, and I thought the mechanic was pretty brilliant.
Agreed. It's funny how a simple wave combat arena can be so entertaining. The classes really worked out nicely.
Plus, you finally had a chance at playing a non-human character!
Bioware hasn't completely alienated me yet, I'm still riding on the ME1/DA:O high, those games were so enjoyable. The rest of the Mass Effect series was decent as well. I don't want to talk about DA:2 though. I just can't summon sufficient level of nerd-rage to hate bioware like some people do.
I'll almost certainly get DA3 or DA:I or whatever they're calling it.
Psienesis wrote: I must be the only mofo on the planet who liked DA2. Any of you ever been inside a warehouse? You seen one, you've seen 'em flippin' all. They're big, empty rooms stacked with random crap.
DA3 MP sounds interesting. I had a lot of fun with ME3s, and I thought the mechanic was pretty brilliant.
dao has a super generic storyline filled with slogfest combat. Only thing going for it was the origin stories. da2 removed that and left the slogfest (added moar gaymance).
Besides who needs dai when witcher has had better nude scenes?
Trailer for dai is pretty cool.
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Every time I hear "in my opinion" or "just my opinion" makes me want to strangle a puppy. People use their opinions as a shield that other poeple can't critisize and that is bs.
If you can't defend or won't defend your opinion then that "opinion" is bs. Stop trying to tip-toe and defend what you believe in.
The Witcher is a great series (though the CCG sex-games of the first were laughable), but it's not the same vibe as DA. Sure, in both cases, you're playing a character that has a pre-defined role in the world, but in TW, it's a much more straight-jacketed role. Geralt is Geralt is Geralt. There's very little you can do that fundamentally changes who the character is or how he acts.
DA has far more open options for character-building.
Also, if you don't like gay romances, don't have one, it's that simple.
It is best to be a pessimist. You are usually right and, when you're wrong, you're pleasantly surprised.
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