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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/10/08 21:15:40
Subject: [2000] - Orks - First List... Help plz
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Proud Triarch Praetorian
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So, this is the first pure Ork list Ive written. I am looking to pick up the army as my next project, and a friend was kind enough to lend the dex so I could write up a list.
This is a first iteration list, and I would like to have some feedback from the wider world. I'm using the Horde detachment for this list
Thanks in advance
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Warboss: Power Klaw, Warboss Gazbag's Blitzbike, Cybork Body
Big Mek: Shokk Attack Gun, Heavy Armour
Wierdboy: Psyker Level 2
Troops
30 Ork Boyz: Shootas
12 Boyz: Boss Nob: Power Klaw, Trukk: Rokkit Launcha
12 Boyz: Boss Nob: Power Klaw, Trukk: Rokkit Launcha
12 Boyz: Boss Nob: Power Klaw, Trukk: Rokkit Launcha
Elites
5 Nobz: 5 Warbikes, 5 Big Choppers
3 Meganobz: Battlewagon: Deff Rolla, Killkannon
5 Kommandos: 2 Burnas, Boss Nob: Power Claw
Fast Attack
3 Deffkoptas: 3 Twin-linked Rokkit Lanchas
Dakkajet
Dakkajet
Heavy Support
3 Killa Kans: 3 Rokkit Launchas
The list totals out at 2000 on the nose.
Cheers for any comments
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/10/08 22:43:34
Subject: [2000] - Orks - First List... Help plz
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Fresh-Faced New User
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The list seems fine, just one thing. Deffrollas are garbage now. Rams are where it's at.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/10/09 06:38:01
Subject: [2000] - Orks - First List... Help plz
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Battlewagon Driver with Charged Engine
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Pretty decent list, though im partial for BWs instead of trukks. Not much 12 orks can do, especially with the newer morale.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/10/09 07:31:06
Subject: [2000] - Orks - First List... Help plz
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Flashy Flashgitz
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If it's your first try, why 2000pts?
You should play less points so you can really focus on your rules and tactics first instead of getting dispersed in managing plenty of miniatures.
Just my 2#
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/10/09 08:00:40
Subject: [2000] - Orks - First List... Help plz
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Proud Triarch Praetorian
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The only reason it's 2000 is so i can try a few different things at once and see how they work together.
I'll read up on rams, maybe make that change.
But the reason i choose trukks is i can't take BW as DTs for the boys
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/10/09 08:42:48
Subject: Re:[2000] - Orks - First List... Help plz
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!!Goffik Rocker!!
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Take meks to eat challenges.
Boss nobz NEED bosspoles. And take rams for trucks. You'll apretiate this dt reroll.
Better get 1 pk than 5 big choppas for nob bikers. And a regular bike but DLS or Finkin' Kap for your warboss.
I'd put meganobz in a truck and choppaboyz in a wagon. It works better this way. Deff rolla is not useful. Take ram. Also, consider boarding planks. Killkannon, though fun, is of little use on such a wonderful assault vehicle.
If you take 5 kommandos, don't bother with pk nob. He's never gona make it there. I'd just take 2 rokkits, infiltrate them and call it a day.
Killa kanz and footslogging boyz are out of place though. Half your list is fast, half slow. Orks don't work that way. You need concentration. But it's gona be fine for casual games as it is.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/07/04 05:09:08
Subject: Re:[2000] - Orks - First List... Help plz
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Battleship Captain
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In addition to protecting the Boss Nobz from challenges, Meks are doubly useful in a trukk boyz list because.... well...you have trukks. Potentially repairing a hit as you careen towards the enemy is good.
The shoota boyz seem a random choice.
A mob that doesn't have to thunder towards the enemy and can instead hold objectives in your backfield is good, but in an ork horde the boyz don't have objective secured, so you don't gain any benefit for using troops to do it.
Shootas are sufficiently short ranged that you'd have to move out to the midfield to help anyway, and thirty boyz can't afford to be doing nothing.
Might I suggest a mob of Lootas or Flash Gitz instead?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/10/09 11:53:19
Subject: [2000] - Orks - First List... Help plz
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Proud Triarch Praetorian
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Shootas were for midfield shooting with the wierdboy. I can easily drop the 30 Shootas to another squad in a trukk, minus the two dudes, to fit the wierdboy with them. That gives me 85 points to play with.
A squad of Lootas is 70, so i could leave the big mek and Lootas backfield to just shoot the crap out of everything.
Replacing the deff roller with a ram gives me another 5 points, which causes a total at 20 points left. Dropping the burnas to rokkits on the kommandos frees another 20. Do i get a fourth meganob with that?
And if i drop the kill kannon from the wagon, what do with those 30 points
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Experience is something you get just after you need it
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/10/12 13:08:11
Subject: [2000] - Orks - First List... Help plz
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Mutated Chosen Chaos Marine
*bursts though room with axe* HEEEAAARRRS JHONNY!!!
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So after a long while I have a chance to have a close up on the list First off, the armament is good for our meta mate  Its all you can do atm with upgrades Secondly, unfortunately I do agree with others about trukks. In 2000pts games they will get touched and die in a stiff breeze, they are too fragile unless you get first turn and then it gets risky.. 1500pts or less is good for trukks, not saying they are too bad but in 2k points they get hammered. I would suggest bunging the boyz up in big squads as well, small squads will not get what you want out of them in big point games like this, and Mob rule will hurt them more than your opponent (you know what I'm like about my rabbiting about Mob Rule  ). Meganobz are good, Deffolas are ok, but that is all personal preference now. If your taking kommandos then bundle up on them, small squads have a bad habit of dying too fast because 7th ed favors shooting as opposed to assault. Killa kanz in small squads will die in stiff breeze (trust the unbound Kan wall list maker here  ) my advice would be to replace them and bulk up your kommandos or Deffkoptas because you will not regret that choice All in all its a canny list but I think it will work more efficiently in small points games... Which I'm happy to play against ya at
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Night Lords (40k): 3500pts
Klan Zaw Klan: 4000pts
Whatever you use.. It's Cheesy, broken and OP |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/10/12 13:20:01
Subject: Re:[2000] - Orks - First List... Help plz
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Nurgle Veteran Marine with the Flu
Southern California
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koooaei wrote:Take meks to eat challenges.
Boss nobz NEED bosspoles. And take rams for trucks. You'll apretiate this dt reroll.
Better get 1 pk than 5 big choppas for nob bikers. And a regular bike but DLS or Finkin' Kap for your warboss.
I'd put meganobz in a truck and choppaboyz in a wagon. It works better this way. Deff rolla is not useful. Take ram. Also, consider boarding planks. Killkannon, though fun, is of little use on such a wonderful assault vehicle.
If you take 5 kommandos, don't bother with pk nob. He's never gona make it there. I'd just take 2 rokkits, infiltrate them and call it a day.
Killa kanz and footslogging boyz are out of place though. Half your list is fast, half slow. Orks don't work that way. You need concentration. But it's gona be fine for casual games as it is.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/10/12 17:29:54
Subject: [2000] - Orks - First List... Help plz
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Proud Triarch Praetorian
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So, here is the second version of the list
HQ
Warboss: Power Klaw, Warboss Gazbag's Blitzbike, Cybork Body
Big Mek: Shokk Attack Gun, Heavy Armour, Gitfinda
Wierdboy: Psyker Level 2
Troops
19 Boyz: Boss Nob: Power Klaw
20 Boyz: Boss Nob: Power Klaw
20 Boyz: Boss Nob: Power Klaw
Elites
5 Nobz: 5 Warbikes, 5 Big Choppers
3 Meganobz: Battlewagon: Reinforced Ram, Red Paint Job
Fast Attack
5 Deffkoptas: 5 Twin-linked Rokkit Lanchas
Dakkajet
Dakkajet
Heavy Support
Battlewagon; Red Paint Job, Reinforced Ram
Battlewagon; Red Paint Job, Reinforced Ram
Battlewagon; Red Paint Job, Reinforced Ram
This totals out at 1988 points, what should i do with the other 12?
Edits for math
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Experience is something you get just after you need it
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/10/13 18:00:43
Subject: [2000] - Orks - First List... Help plz
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two thirty-ork squads I would say, and drop the rocket launchers. You have a lot of unneeded upgrades that could go to more boys etc. I'm not a huge fan of commandos and I'd suggest using lootaz instead.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/10/13 18:10:19
Subject: [2000] - Orks - First List... Help plz
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Proud Triarch Praetorian
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I don't have access to Lootas unfortunately, and you missed the updated list just above your post
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Experience is something you get just after you need it
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Iron Hands - 12k
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Alpha Legion Raiders - 3k |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/10/14 00:06:02
Subject: [2000] - Orks - First List... Help plz
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Flashy Flashgitz
Clarksville, TN
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RPJ is a waste of points. You can swap that for Rokkits on your BW so that Weapon Destroyed doesn't turn into Immobilized.
Nob Warbikers are a waste of points. You can better mileage out of MANZ or more Ork Bikers.
Also it is universally agreed that CAD is better than the Ork Detachment.
Also Huge Choppas aren't enough to matter.
Final thought: Where is your SAG going? He needs a unit of bodyguards. I recommend Mek Gunz, Gretchin or Lootas. He has good range and needs to stand still so his unit either needs to be a bullet shield or comparable. I love him, but he needs to be in the right unit.
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FASTA, DAKKA, WAAAGH, KRUMP, ORKS WIN AGAIN!!!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/10/14 09:38:54
Subject: [2000] - Orks - First List... Help plz
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Proud Triarch Praetorian
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Ok, so I will switch the red paint jobs to rokkits
If i also drop the big choppers from the nob bikers, i have 25 points left. Unfortunately, i don't think i will be able to squeeze in any shooting bodyguards for the SAG, so he will have to be on his own.
Any ideas on how to fix that?
Edit: well, i can fit a unit of gretchin. Would that do, just as ablative wounds?
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2014/10/14 09:43:49
Experience is something you get just after you need it
The Narkos Dynasty - 15k
Iron Hands - 12k
The Shadewatch - 3k
Cadmus Outriders - 4k
Alpha Legion Raiders - 3k |
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