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This is what I'll be using in a local league this autumn.

What do you all think? What would you change?


Primary Detachment - Dark Eldar (Realspace Raiders)

HQ -
Archon - Webway Portal, Haywire Grenades

Troops
5x Kabalite Warriors - Venom, Dual Cannons
5x Kabalite Warriors - Venom, Dual Cannons

Fast Attack
Razorwing Jetfighter - 2x Monoscythe Missiles, 2x Necrotoxin Missiles
Razorwing Jetfighter - 2x Monoscythe Missiles, 2x Necrotoxin Missiles
Razorwing Jetfighter - 2x Monoscythe Missiles, 2x Necrotoxin Missiles
5x Scourges - 4x Haywire Blasters
5x Scourges - 4x Haywire Blasters
5x Scourges - 4x Haywire Blasters

Heavy Support
Ravager - 3x Disintegrators
Ravager - 3x Disintegrators
Ravager - 3x Dark Lance

Allied Detachment - Eldar

HQ
Autarch - Scorpion Chainsword

Elites
5x Fire Dragons - Wave Serpent, Scatter Laser, Shuriken Cannon

Troops
3x Windrider Jetbikes
3x Windrider Jetbikes

I feel like the Fire Dragons are just not even neccessary, What about deep striking Wraithguards w/ D Scythes w/ the Archon?

I mean seriously, you've got 3 squads of Scourges w/ Haywire , why not just go all out and take 3 Ravagers w/ Dark Lances.

Also, work in a Comm Relay.

Also, that is not a pleasant thing to play against at all..

That's a pretty solid list quite honestly. I got nothin as for critiques. Let us know how the tourney goes?

Yeah that is absolutely brutal.

Pretty solid though I'd make the following changes:

I would drop the Ravagers they are just too over costed in this book.

That nets you 345 points. Use that to get 5 D-Scythe Wraithguard in a Serpent without chin Cannon.

That way you can drop in whichever squad is the biggest threat to the opponent (scythes or Fragons) and the other still has the Serpent ride so can be effective and start on the board.

It just makes you more of a threat to more types of army.

Compromise of taking two Ravagers with Dark Lances.

Oooh man this looks beaUtiful!! stolen

The only thing is your not getting something out of your Archon who has a webway portal. What unit does he go with? Fire Dragons in a Wave Serpent?


It is a crazy good nasty list though.

only thing i see, is i think id rather have a farseer, and wraithguard. but i guess you're using the autarch for reserve rolls. hmmm this is nasty though.

could you do a similar list with a wraithknight, i think he'd be a great anchor to your on table force. and would the crimson hunter be a good addition with your other fliers?

It doesn't really need anything , but I think that instead of Fire Dragons taking 2 Dire Avengers in Serpents and a Wraithknight may be more disgusting to deal with.

I mean you have 12 Haywire Blasters and could have 9 Dark Lances.

What more do you need to deal with Armour.

Armies super good though. Especially those Monoscythe missiles.

Thanks guys.

I have played 3 games with it already but I used 2 lance ravagers and had too much AT (2 tables and a small pts loss).

Dissies are amazingly easy to get in this edition and way better than poison.

Played another game last night and won a close pts game against triptide and tripimpknights.

Going to change up the list a bit but try to keep the theme.


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New list...

After losing to necrons and only just beating the imp knights last night I think this is better...

2x Archon, wwp, haywire grenades
Autarch, scorp chainsword
2x3 guardian jetbikes
2x5 kabalite warriors
2x5 fire dragons
2x crimson hunter
2x razorwing jetfighters
2x5 haywire scourges
2x empty raiders
2x disintegrator ravagers

I lose the poison shots as I dropped the venoms, also lose a squad of haywire scourges, a lance ravager and a razorwing.

I do however gain more precision striking fire dragons, 2 flyers that can actually shoot other flyers and open topped transports so my dragons have some element of protection. Also it means knights shields are irrelevant as I can shoot from any point of the raider.

Much better anti flyer, still easily enough ai, at, amc to do the job.

Much happier this way I think...


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List one or list 2 guys?

I like list 2 better, as the Autarch is a must have and the Crimson Hunters are better AA than any DE flier. You still have Razorwing Monoscythe missiles if you need more anti-infantry anyways.

I'm currently looking at Dscythe Wraithguard for ap2 and skimmers can't jink, but needing 6s makes me think Fire Dragons might be better

What benefit is gained from having the dark eldar be primary detachment?

The warlord table is good, but not significantly better than having the farseer roll in eldar or off the strategic table.

The problem with using dark eldar as the primary is that it requires you to replace the tactical objectives 11 - 16 (which are easy points) with the eldar tac objectives (which are harder points).

e.g. if you draw 'kill something in your assault phase' which of your units is reliably going to do that?

if you draw 'make something fail a leadership or pinning test' which unit forces a pinning check?

The vanilla objective cards are better imho.

Are you playing maelstrom? How do you like the dark eldar objectives?

He get's 6 Fast Attack slots. I like the 2nd list but it's to bad there's noway to get some venoms possibly into the list?

Hey nice list but I thought autarchs couldnt use their reserve ability as an allied detachment?

is the second list double CAD?

No single cad and detachment.

Never really like venoms to be honest, lots of shots but woefully ineffective for the most part.

Game one of league, beat Raven Guard 29-10.