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Working on getting enogh models for my first 50 point list.
need a little help in deciding which direct to take it

i have:
Pkaya
Argus
Winterargus
2x warpbeasts(can be either feral or pureblood)
Shifting stones plus UA
Warpborn skin wakers
blackclad wayfarer

i know i want the Warpborn Skin walker

the choice comes to either
Ekaya
or
a warwolf and reeve hunter solo

I dont want minions i like playing a pure list for fun.

Thanks Dakka

eKaya if the Warwolf and Reeve hunter are the only alternative.

You're going to want the Skinwalker UA, a Warp Wolf Stalker, and a Gorax though. Those are some of the basics you are lacking.

Circle rarely uses Minions so not taking them isn't a major handicap.

i forgot to put my Warpwolf Stalker on there =P

i dont like the look of the gorax. is his animus really that important. every body seams to say thats all you take him for.

really happy to hear minions arent important to circle

Yes, his animus really is that important. But he himself also can get work done. He is a Fury 4 light with very good damage output for a light. Plus he, if wounded, can do a bunch of stuff for free.

There is a reason nearly every circle list has one.

Blargh guess i will have to mod a gorax if it is important.

so i have 6 points to play with. at the moment i have 3 heavy and 2 light beasts. is it worth running 6 beasts in a Pkaya list??

if not what beast should i drop??

Well ditch the regular Argus for sure. He couldn't be justified at 3 points, let alone 4.

I'd also look into getting Blood Trackers with their UA Nuala. They're nice and self-sufficient.

how come no one likes the Argus. i have had great luck with doppler bark making it easy to hit and preventing charges??

i had considered blood trackers and nuala. issue is with 6 points i can either get a warpborn alpha nad have 3 to play with or a unit and UA.

really not sure where to go from here =P
Thanks for the great advice btw

1) He can't hit the broadside of a barn with his Doppler bark
2) It only effects living models
3) His melee output sucks
4) Animus doesn't make up for the above problems
5) same cost as a Gorax



I think the following would be a decent 50 point list to aim for.

pKaya
-Pureblood
-Stalker
-Feral
-Gorax

Stones with UA
Stones
max Bloodtrackers
max Skinwalkers with UA

After this, you can pick up eKaya, Nuala, and maybe a third Warlock(eKreuger or Kromac would be a decent choice) for some variety.

sounds like a good list . keeps me from having to get a bunch of new stuff =)

can see your points on the argus. always have to boost to hit =P
is the winter argus any better??

Yeah, the Winter Argus is much better. But even he still rarely makes it into lists. Just a point too expensive, but at least he actually has some useful abilities.

Still got a pretty bad Rat, but at least he's got 2 sprays that can do actual damage plus have a very nice Crit effect that can effect anything that's not immune to Cold.