[1850] - DAs/Wolves - Quad Land Raiders!

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**Ratius**

Decided I'll bring this to an 1850 tournament just for fun but would like help tweaking it if I made any stupid errors with wargear etc.

Dark Angels as CAD
Chaplain on bike with rosarius, powerfield generator, power sword.
7 x Tactical squad with bolters/boltguns with Sergent (lightning claw/melta bombs)
7 x Tactical squad with bolters/boltguns with Sergent (lightning claw/melta bombs)
Land Raider Crusader with storm bolter
Land Raider Crusader with storm bolter

Space Wolves as Allied
Wolf priest on bike with power sword and melta bombs
5 x Wolf Guard with ccws and 2 power swords with pack leader with power axe
Land Raider Crusader with multimelta
7 x Grey Hunters with bolters and CCWs with pack leader with power axe
Land Raider Crusader with multimelta

Questions:
Any better wargear options on each unit for hard hittingness?
Sub in normal land raiders instead of crusaders for some heavier firepower VS the likes of tanks or riptides etc?
Swap out the chap/priest for two librarians on bikes?

**Epartalis**

Is there any way to fit a banner of detestation in there? Doubling your shots on your hurricane Bolters would be pretty great.

**Big Blind Bill**

1) Why a chaplain over a librarian? A librarian comes with a power weapon base, which will save you points, and has more utility than than a chaplain.

2) Why a bike for you Chaplin? He should just ride in a landraider. PFG now works inside vehicles again.

3) The landraiders would be better with a MM over a storm bolter, as it will give your list some ranged anti tank capability.

4) I'm not seeing the point of lightning claws on a sergeant. He will only have 1 attack with it. Get rid of them and save some points.

5) Why wolf guard and grey hunters without special weapons? If you plan to continue doing this then bloodclaws would be a better choice, as they will get more attacks and more bodies on the board.

6) Get a DA command squad in there with dev banner. It works wonders with LRC. However it only works with DA models.

7) Personally, I would take 3 LRC from DA, as they benefit from the banner. The fourth landraider I would take with the SW detach, and I would make it a landrader spartan, as this offers the best ranged anti tank that a landraider can posses.

Here's an example of what I would run:

DA
Librarian - PFG

Command squad - SoD

5x Scouts - Snipers
5x Scouts - Snipers

LRC - MM
LRC - MM
LRC - MM

SW
Rune priest - Meltabombs
Rune priest - Meltabombs

10x Bloodclaws - Meltagun
10x Bloodclaws - Meltagun

Spartan assault tank

1845 points

**Ratius**

Cheers dude, some good food for thought there!

I was thinking of the chaplains/priest as more hth orientated than the Libbys? Kinda for a theme.
I gave them bikes so hopefully they can grab objectives quickly/contest late game rather than be entombed in the LRs.
Didnt have the points to weaponise the hunters and wolf guard unfortunately.
The command unit and banner I had thought about but its a big points sink and would mean, as you listed, taking scouts which Im not overly keen on.
I cant take a spartan since I dont own the model Im afraid.

I'll have a rejig and see what I can fix up.

**Filch**

Epartalis wrote:
Is there any way to fit a banner of detestation in there? Doubling your shots on your hurricane Bolters would be pretty great.

This is vital!!!

**Ratius**

I just cant seem to squeeze in the banner :(

Any views on the types of LRs I should take?
Im thinking of putting in one redeemer for clearing objectives, shooting hordes?
The list lacks severely in long range AT, would 4 standard LRs with lascannons balance that

**Epartalis**

I mean if you are going to take crusaders I think the banner is a must as well as a power field generator. I can't stress enough how much of a must this is, it's the difference between being semi competitive and having a very slight chance of winning games.

The other land raider variants in my opinion are subpar the only exception being the redeemer with salamanders tactics, even that I find very situational. I can't speak for any of the forge world variants.

**Ratius**

Problem with the banner is the tax to take it.
You need a Command unit at 100 points (naked) and then the banner itself at 65.
So I need to find 165 points in order to get it in.

I only have two DA LRs and three SW ones so maxing the DA LRs and then dropping the wolf guards isnt an option hence the CAD+allies :(

**Epartalis**

Ah, well I didn't understand the modeling limatitions.

Well best of luck sir, if you have deathwing knights I hear they can be fun in a raider.

**UnadoptedPuppy**

You don't really need allies to fit 4 Raiders in a DA list, which works out nice when they all have the DW Vehicle upgrade. Some fun I've had was with:

Libby in Termie armor w/ PFG
DW Command Squad w/ Dev Standard
Dedicated LRC w/ DW Vehicle and MM
Techmarine w/ bike, PFG, servo-harness

2x 5 man Tac Squad

3x LRC w/ DW Vehicle and MM

Keep the PFGs in the right place and your opponent will struggle to kill more than 1 Raider.

**Ratius**

Funnily enough I just submitted this list in

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