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Here's a 2000 point Blood Angels list I've come up with based on stuff I've got plus stuff I plan to get that I think will work with what I have. Comments and criticism most welcome!

+++ Blood Angels Fast (2000pts) +++

+ HQ + (250pts)

* Mephiston, Lord of Death (250pts)


+ Elites + (105pts)

* Sanguinary Priests (105pts)
Brother Corbulo


+ Troops + (990pts)

* Assault Squad (220pts)
9x Assault Marines, Flamer x2, Retain Jump Packs
* Veteran Sergeant
Bolt Pistol, Power Weapon


* Death Company (440pts)
10x Bolt Pistol, 10x Chainsword, 10x Death Company Marine, Land Raider Redeemer


* Scout Squad (100pts)
Missile Launcher, 3x Sniper Rifle
* 4x Scouts
4x Camo Cloaks
* Veteran Sergeant
Camo Cloak, Sniper Rifle


* Tactical Squad (230pts)
Flamer, Heavy Bolter, Rhino, 9x Tactical Marine
* Veteran Sergeant
Bolt Pistol, Combi Plasma


+ Fast Attack + (455pts)

* Baal Predator (145pts)
Heavy Bolters, Twin Linked Assault Cannon


* Baal Predator (145pts)
Heavy Bolters, Twin Linked Assault Cannon


* Bike Squadron (165pts)
3x Space Marine Biker, Veteran Sergeant
* Attack Bike
Multimelta


+ Heavy Support + (200pts)

* Stormraven Gunship (200pts)
Twin Linked Lascannon, Twin Linked Multi Melta

Any BA players out there willing to cast their eye over this ..?

Seems kinda all over the place to be honest... Whats the intended strategy?

Baal preds move up either flank and draw fire while everything else gets into combat ASAP, except the tac squad and scouts who go after objectives. Meph and Corbulo in the Raven.

I initially included the scouts so I could take a locator beacon and deep strike the land raider with no scatter but didn't have the 25pts spare.

Mixed the special weapons between flamers and melta to be flexible against different enemy types.

I am pretty inexperienced when it comes to games and list building, hence posting this up for feedback!

Personally I wouldn't take tacticals, if you want objective campers I would take Scouts or just a 10 man assault squad with two plasma guns. Also your tacticals are all over the place build them for a specific job don't try and get them to be a jack of all trades.

Change the Redeemer for a Crusader, Redeemers need to get really close to give any sort of fire support and generally isn't as good as a Crusader at doing so.

Death Company need at least 1 Power Fist, I would take 2 though in a 10 man squad.

You need more Anti-tank, Blood Angels can get dual Meltas in nearly every squad and would give you something to challenge an AM Tank list.

I prefer twin linked assault cannons and Melta on the Stormraven so it can threaten tanks and infantry. I have never seen a time when I needed two anti-tank weapons on it.

Drop the bikes and get another Baal.

Corbulo is a beast and I know your going for Mephstar but I feel that you need more Sang Priests and would drop him for 2. Sanguinary Priests are amazing in combat and give your assault squads some real punch.

Hi PastelAvenger, thanks for the reply!

I hear you on the tac squad – in the few games I've played to be honest I've never known quite what to do with them. I have a scout squad already in the list so could indeed use them for objective camping purposes at less points cost.

I think I'll stick with the Redeemer – it is basically my Death Company delivery system so I need it to get up close and personal. I'll try to get a couple of power mauls into the DC unit so as to not adversely affect initiative via 'Unwieldy'.

As for anti-tank maybe I'll go for 2x meltas for the ASM, plus maybe I need something else in Heavy Support – a rifleman dread or Vindicator?

I'll have to look at the points but maybe I could drop Corbulo, field a second ASM squad and put a Priest with each...

I would go for the vindicator but these always perform better if you have 2.

I would definitely go dual melta on the ASM

A Power Maul doesn't have the AP1 a Power Fist has and that's the real reason for taking it, this way on the charge you can even threaten a Wrathknight. Remember you have 8 other bodies to soak up the hits before your Power Fist gets chewed up.

On the Redeemer I would also take a Multi Melta and Extra Armour to make sure it's moving every turn.

If you're after a fast list I would suggest going back to the old 5th edition lists 5 man ASM w/melta in a Razoback w/ assault cannons.

How about this update? I wasn't sure about the Razorback weapon when I wrote it, could easily swap for assault cannon...

+++ Blood Angels Fast v2 (2000pts) +++

+ HQ + (250pts)

* Mephiston, Lord of Death (250pts)
(In Stormraven)


+ Elites + (255pts)

* Chaplain (105pts)
Melta Bombs
* Power Armour
Bolt Pistol
(Rides with DC in LR)


* Sanguinary Priests (150pts)
* Sanguinary Priest
* Power Armour
Bolt Pistol, Chainsword
* Sanguinary Priest
* Power Armour
Bolt Pistol, Chainsword
* Sanguinary Priest
* Power Armour
Bolt Pistol, Chainsword
(1 in each Razorback with AS squad)


+ Troops + (1005pts)

* Assault Squad (170pts)
4x Assault Marines
* Razorback
Lascannon & Twin Linked Plasma Gun
* Veteran Sergeant
Bolt Pistol, Power Weapon


* Assault Squad (170pts)
4x Assault Marines
* Razorback
Lascannon & Twin Linked Plasma Gun
* Veteran Sergeant
Bolt Pistol, Power Weapon


* Assault Squad (170pts)
4x Assault Marines
* Razorback
Lascannon & Twin Linked Plasma Gun
* Veteran Sergeant
Bolt Pistol, Power Weapon


* Death Company (485pts)
10x Bolt Pistol, 8x Chainsword, 10x Death Company Marines, Power Sword, Thunder Hammer
Land Raider Redeemer


+ Fast Attack + (290pts)

* Baal Predator (145pts)
Heavy Bolters, Twin Linked Assault Cannon


* Baal Predator (145pts)
Heavy Bolters, Twin Linked Assault Cannon


+ Heavy Support + (200pts)

* Stormraven Gunship (200pts)
Twin Linked Assault Cannon, Twin Linked Multi Melta

I like it, very fast and has the ability to hit hard.

I would try and find 30pts to add a melta or flamer into each ASM but apart from that it's a nice list.

The key is keeping it moving and remember that when you disembark you can place models within coherency from the exit up to 6inches away, really helps when you're setting up in Melta range or flamer range.

I had one melta on one of the squads, so was just 20 to find - did it by dropping a DC marine:

+++ Blood Angels Fast 2 (2000pts) +++

+ HQ + (250pts)

* Mephiston, Lord of Death (250pts)


+ Elites + (255pts)

* Chaplain (105pts)
Melta Bombs
* Power Armour
Bolt Pistol


* Sanguinary Priests (150pts)
* Sanguinary Priest
* Power Armour
Bolt Pistol, Chainsword
* Sanguinary Priest
* Power Armour
Bolt Pistol, Chainsword
* Sanguinary Priest
* Power Armour
Bolt Pistol, Chainsword


+ Troops + (1005pts)

* Assault Squad (180pts)
4x Assault Marines, Meltagun
* Razorback
Twin Linked Assault Cannon
* Veteran Sergeant
Bolt Pistol, Power Weapon

* Assault Squad (180pts)
4x Assault Marines, Meltagun
* Razorback
Twin Linked Assault Cannon
* Veteran Sergeant
Bolt Pistol, Power Weapon


* Assault Squad (180pts)
4x Assault Marines, Meltagun
* Razorback
Twin Linked Assault Cannon
* Veteran Sergeant
Bolt Pistol, Power Weapon


* Death Company (465pts)
9x Bolt Pistol, 7x Chainsword, 9x Death Company Marine, Land Raider Redeemer, Power Sword, Thunder Hammer


+ Fast Attack + (290pts)

* Baal Predator (145pts)
Heavy Bolters, Twin Linked Assault Cannon


* Baal Predator (145pts)
Heavy Bolters, Twin Linked Assault Cannon


+ Heavy Support + (200pts)

* Stormraven Gunship (200pts)
Twin Linked Assault Cannon, Twin Linked Multi Melta

The newest list is a strong one. Mobility is also good.

Just note that since your Baal Predators already pack enough S5/6 AP4, it seems kind of a waste to have Assault Cannons on all of the Reazorbacks.
At least two of them could take TLLC's or LasPlas-guns instead.
Without Razorbacks, your only long-ranged AT is a single MM on the Raven so it's definitely worth it.

soomemafia, thanks for the input. Good point about the anti-tank, I could certainly swap one, two or all the turrets on the Razorbacks. I take it the pro of the plas/las over the TLLC is the AP2 option, and the con is Gets Hot? In this case maybe TLLC is better..?

If you take lasplas then you're a threat to tanks and infintry where as a single lascannon shot isn't all that great.

Assault cannons can damage armour too but it would be best to mix it up a bit.

Try it our for a few games and see how you get on and let us know. To be honest this list is very similar to mine but I try and take a unit of deep striking Honour Guard and Sanguinary Guard

Cheers PastelAvenger, I actually have a Sanguinary Guard unit I've never used - how exactly do you kit them out and use them?