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Hey guys, I was thinking of a tournament list and with some of my Ork models still in the "to do" bin, I thought I'd put together a Orks/allyCSM list to play around with, so I'd love some feedback on it


The idea of the allies is to keep the cultists with the lord on objective holding duty, the oblits to help vs armor, the helldrake to do his things, while the main ork force moves forward and crump fings (especially if I get infiltrate on the warboss from strategic)
Note: my endgame Ork list swaps the CSM allies for 9 more bikes, another MANz missile, 10 more Lootas and an ADL with a quad

U did the csm allies correct. Git moar lootas!

A few questions regarding the below guys:

 Delevarius wrote:
Elites: Meganobz (Bosspole, 2x Kombi-Skorcha)

I assume these guys HAVE a trukk? I can't see one in your list...

 Delevarius wrote:
HQ:Chaos Lord, Chaos Cultists (20 Cultists)

What is the purpose of the Chaos Lord? He's typically a CC machine. Unforutnatly if all your doing is keeping him back sitting on an objective, then I feel that a sourcerer would be more effective and cheaprer. The sourcerer would be able to summon extras for you, which WILL be a nice boost.
-- Alternatively, you could run a Nurgle lord on a bike with Nurgle Bikers. It gives you 2 very nasty strong units, but then you would be investing points elsewhere and dropping further stuff from your list.
-- From my experience, Cultists are an ork players Grots. Both suck at combat and have rubbish saves, but are cheap as chips and hold objectives.
NB: Are your Obliterators flootslogging it too? I imagine you'd be taking them with your Chaos Lord to march across the field? It seems sort of slow, especially against alot of the high powered shooting armies out there who'll be able to get through them.

 Delevarius wrote:
4 Warbikers + Nob + Pklaw + Bpole

I see that you also have the Painbiker and Warboss Biker. This feels like a fractured section here. The Warboss and Painboy will be able to slingshot between the two 30 ork blobs and slingshot where required, but 4 warbikers aren't enough to do much, im sorry to say.

 Delevarius wrote:
Note: my endgame Ork list swaps the CSM allies for 9 more bikes, another MANz missile, 10 more Lootas and an ADL with a quad

I really like this plan. It gives you a lot more bikers to have an effective, threatening DeffStar, and the 2 Manz Missiles will create alot of planic too.

I'd like to play around with CSM personally, but I'd need to ask what you have on both Orks and CSM:
-- Do you have any Battlewagons? How many trukks do you have? Do you have any deffkoptas?

Sketchyfk wrote:
A few questions regarding the below guys:

 Delevarius wrote:
Elites: Meganobz (Bosspole, 2x Kombi-Skorcha)

I assume these guys HAVE a trukk? I can't see one in your list...

 Delevarius wrote:
HQ:Chaos Lord, Chaos Cultists (20 Cultists)

What is the purpose of the Chaos Lord? He's typically a CC machine. Unforutnatly if all your doing is keeping him back sitting on an objective, then I feel that a sourcerer would be more effective and cheaprer. The sourcerer would be able to summon extras for you, which WILL be a nice boost.
-- Alternatively, you could run a Nurgle lord on a bike with Nurgle Bikers. It gives you 2 very nasty strong units, but then you would be investing points elsewhere and dropping further stuff from your list.
-- From my experience, Cultists are an ork players Grots. Both suck at combat and have rubbish saves, but are cheap as chips and hold objectives.
NB: Are your Obliterators flootslogging it too? I imagine you'd be taking them with your Chaos Lord to march across the field? It seems sort of slow, especially against alot of the high powered shooting armies out there who'll be able to get through them.

 Delevarius wrote:
4 Warbikers + Nob + Pklaw + Bpole

I see that you also have the Painbiker and Warboss Biker. This feels like a fractured section here. The Warboss and Painboy will be able to slingshot between the two 30 ork blobs and slingshot where required, but 4 warbikers aren't enough to do much, im sorry to say.

 Delevarius wrote:
Note: my endgame Ork list swaps the CSM allies for 9 more bikes, another MANz missile, 10 more Lootas and an ADL with a quad

I really like this plan. It gives you a lot more bikers to have an effective, threatening DeffStar, and the 2 Manz Missiles will create alot of planic too.

I'd like to play around with CSM personally, but I'd need to ask what you have on both Orks and CSM:
-- Do you have any Battlewagons? How many trukks do you have? Do you have any deffkoptas?

The MANz do ride in trukkz with only reinforced rams, ill add that later
The cultists are just grot substitute to make the allies legal, and i planned to put the lord with them fearless
I have up to 4 trukkz and no battlewagons atm and i have no deffkoptas.
My plan is to slowly build up my ork force and relly till then on my friends chaos models
The oblits arebthere as antiarmor and midground support
The idea for the sorcerer instead of the lord seems cool, ill update in my next reply

If the chaos sorc perils of the warp to death, does he give up slay the warlord points?

 Filch wrote:
If the chaos sorc perils of the warp to death, does he give up slay the warlord points?

If he is the warlord, yes

Does he give kill points if he dies to PotW?

 Filch wrote:
Does he give kill points if he dies to PotW?

Yes
you do know that there is a subforum for rules and stuff right ?

Anyways Sorcerer seems a bit worse then the lord imo, since he cant use divination to buff the oblits and doesnt have fearless. The Nurgle Bikers idea seems awesome, but I think a Helldrake might do more work since the ground is quite clogged with boyz and other orky stuff