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So characters lost Precision Shots in the move to 7th Edition.

Advanced Targeting Systems for the Tau state that any model equipped with these make precision shots on 6's to hit.
It goes on further to say that characters who have taken this system make Precision Shots on 5+.

Am I right in thinking that even though characters lost precision shots support in the 7th ed BRB, the C:TE allows my characters to still get precision on 5+?

one of two things happen with advanced targeting systems.

1. They do nothing, since standard precision shots are gone and they do not state they give the precision shots USR.

2. They work exactly as they are written to and grant precision shots to models that take them.


Im going with 2 myself, but I never see any tau players actually use em.

Well it's murky at best, the change to the precision shot mexhanic as a whole makes the secons sentence of the ATS make no sense whatsoever.

Edit: The FAQ does make them give precision shots.
But it only changes the first sentence to be in line with the new edition's PC mechanic.

 HoverBoy wrote:
Well it's murky at best, the change to the precision shot mexhanic as a whole makes the secons sentence of the ATS make no sense whatsoever.

Edit: The FAQ does make them give precision shots.
But it only changes the first sentence to be in line with the new edition's PC mechanic.

My confusion stemmed from the following
6th Ed Characters automatically had Precision Shots on a to-hit roll of 6
Tau Advanced Targeting Systems grant Precision Shots on a to-hit roll of 6 to any model that buys one. If the model that buys it is a character, it now makes precision on a 5 or a 6 to-hit (so as they are still useful to characters who already had precision shots)
7th Edition removed the automatic possession of the Precision Shots USR from characters.

I'm thinking since the codex still states that my characters with ATS make precision on a 5+, and there hasn't been a FAQ to negate this, it's good.
I was just thinking I missed an update or something somewhere updating the ATS to be in line with the fact that characters no longer have precision shots by default.


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 Eihnlazer wrote:
one of two things happen with advanced targeting systems.

1. They do nothing, since standard precision shots are gone and they do not state they give the precision shots USR.

2. They work exactly as they are written to and grant precision shots to models that take them.


Im going with 2 myself, but I never see any tau players actually use em.

They do state they give the Precision Shots USR

The thing I'm questioning is wether or not it still grants precision shots on a 5+ rather than on 6's.

Yes, characters still make Precision Shots on a 5+ with the ATS.

I'm not sure what you're confused about. Page 68, after being amended by the FAQ, should read:

"A model with an advanced targeting system has the Precision Shots special rule. If a character has an advanced targeting system, any To Hit roll of a 5 or 6 they make in the Shooting phase is a Precision shot."

That seems pretty clear to me.

 Mr. Shine wrote:
I'm not sure what you're confused about. Page 68, after being amended by the FAQ, should read:

"A model with an advanced targeting system has the Precision Shots special rule. If a character has an advanced targeting system, any To Hit roll of a 5 or 6 they make in the Shooting phase is a Precision shot."

That seems pretty clear to me.

I was just thinking I was missing a FAQ somewhere, thinking that with 7th's removal of precision from all characters they'd update ATS to just 6's for anyone with it.

Thanks for helping me out!

Hydromancer wrote:

 Mr. Shine wrote:
I'm not sure what you're confused about. Page 68, after being amended by the FAQ, should read:

"A model with an advanced targeting system has the Precision Shots special rule. If a character has an advanced targeting system, any To Hit roll of a 5 or 6 they make in the Shooting phase is a Precision shot."

That seems pretty clear to me.

I was just thinking I was missing a FAQ somewhere, thinking that with 7th's removal of precision from all characters they'd update ATS to just 6's for anyone with it.

Thanks for helping me out!

Nope, makes dual burst cannon 'vre's kinda nasty.

New BRB clearly difines the difference between having "Precision shots" the rule, and Making a "Precision Shot", the effect.

Precision shots the rule allows the model/weapon with it to make a Precision Shot the effect on a roll of 6 to hit.

Aye with the new FAQ the ATS works perfectly.


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Aye with the new FAQ the ATS works perfectly.