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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/10/20 20:59:30
Subject: Culexus Assassin, Psykers, and LOS
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Hooded Inquisitorial Interrogator
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What happens when the Culexus Assassin wounds a psyker character in close combat who then LOS the wound to a multiwound non, psyker, model? Does the attack still inflict ID?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/10/20 22:54:48
Subject: Culexus Assassin, Psykers, and LOS
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Monster-Slaying Daemonhunter
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Has the attack been "allocated to a Psyker"? If yes, then it does ID. If no, then it does not have ID.
I would say that it WAS allocated to the Psyker, and then LOS! re-allocated it. The attack had already gained ID at that point, and re-allocating a wound does not strip ID from it.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/10/21 02:15:38
Subject: Culexus Assassin, Psykers, and LOS
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If it was "re-allocated" to a non pskyer, then it was not allocated to a Pskyer.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/10/21 16:22:27
Subject: Culexus Assassin, Psykers, and LOS
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Dakka Veteran
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But I'm thinking he would make the test at a minus 2
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In a dog eat dog be a cat. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/10/21 19:09:05
Subject: Culexus Assassin, Psykers, and LOS
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Monster-Slaying Daemonhunter
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When a wound is allocated, it goes to the closest model. If that model happens to be a Psyker, then the wound gains Instant Death.
How does the wound lose the special rule ID after that point?
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LVO 2017 - Best GK Player
The Grimdark Future 8500 1500  6000 2000 5000
"[We have] an inheritance which is beyond the reach of change and decay." 1 Peter 1.4
"With the Emperor there is no variation or shadow due to change." James 1.17
“Fear the Emperor; do not associate with those who are given to change.” Proverbs 24.21 |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/10/21 19:11:59
Subject: Culexus Assassin, Psykers, and LOS
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Powerful Phoenix Lord
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I would like to point out that the attack must be allocated to a Psyker, not a Wound.
As near as I can tell the only time you would allocate attacks directly to a Psyker, would be if the Psyker is its own unit. If, you have a unit of grunts with an attached Psyker, you would allocate the attacks to the grunts, as that would be the unit you are attacking. As such, since the Psyker would have to be his own unit, the only way to LOS the Wound is if there are ICs attached to the Psyker's unit. And even then, the attack was allocated to a Psyker, even if the Wound was not.
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Greebo had spent an irritating two minutes in that box. Technically, a cat locked in a box may be alive or it may be dead. You never know until you look. In fact, the mere act of opening the box will determine the state of the cat, although in this case there were three determinate states the cat could be in: these being Alive, Dead, and Bloody Furious.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/10/21 19:34:52
Subject: Culexus Assassin, Psykers, and LOS
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Monster-Slaying Daemonhunter
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That's a good catch, thanks for the correction!
So mainly this would be important in challenges, since the attacks go directly against the character and don't care about the rest of his unit.
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LVO 2017 - Best GK Player
The Grimdark Future 8500 1500  6000 2000 5000
"[We have] an inheritance which is beyond the reach of change and decay." 1 Peter 1.4
"With the Emperor there is no variation or shadow due to change." James 1.17
“Fear the Emperor; do not associate with those who are given to change.” Proverbs 24.21 |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/10/21 20:55:57
Subject: Culexus Assassin, Psykers, and LOS
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Fixture of Dakka
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Yay for yet another Target: Model specific Rule that triggers during actions which are resolved against Units as a whole....
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2014/10/21 20:56:44
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/10/21 20:58:49
Subject: Culexus Assassin, Psykers, and LOS
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Hooded Inquisitorial Interrogator
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What I was thinking what if you got the assassin in combat with a screamerstar, you allocated all your hits to the grimore bearer, who then LOS's most of them them to the sceamers. Do the screamers if they fail a save suffer instant death?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/10/21 22:13:40
Subject: Culexus Assassin, Psykers, and LOS
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Fixture of Dakka
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Screamers have the Brotherhood of Psykers Special Rule, do they not?
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8th made it so I can no longer sway Tau onto the side of Chaos, but they will eventually turn aside from their idea of the Greater Good to embrace the Greatest of pleasures. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/10/21 22:39:40
Subject: Culexus Assassin, Psykers, and LOS
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Monster-Slaying Daemonhunter
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@Rynner
The problem HappyJew points out is that Hits are against units, not against individual models. That's why you use the majority WS of a unit. (Right?)
@JixDragon
The only thing in the Daemon book with BoS is Pink Horrors. Screamers (ie Discs of Tzeentch) do not have the Psyker rule in any form.
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LVO 2017 - Best GK Player
The Grimdark Future 8500 1500  6000 2000 5000
"[We have] an inheritance which is beyond the reach of change and decay." 1 Peter 1.4
"With the Emperor there is no variation or shadow due to change." James 1.17
“Fear the Emperor; do not associate with those who are given to change.” Proverbs 24.21 |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/10/21 23:46:19
Subject: Culexus Assassin, Psykers, and LOS
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Fixture of Dakka
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Elric,
Thanks, was curious about that as I don't play Deamons.
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8th made it so I can no longer sway Tau onto the side of Chaos, but they will eventually turn aside from their idea of the Greater Good to embrace the Greatest of pleasures. |
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