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Can I infiltrate a unit consisted of cypher a unit of anything let's say 3 obliterators and then add another independent character lets say typhus?
Does cypher confers infiltrate to another IC while in the same unit? Thanks!

From the BRB, under IC's, just before the Infiltrate entry:

An Independent Character without the Infiltrate special rule cannot join a unit of Infiltrators during deployment.

Can you define what is a unit of infiltrators? 3 obliterators are not infiltrators. First you join typhus, then you join cypher.

You cannot join them as ICs may only join by being deployed in coherency or held in reserves. The oblits have no permission to vibe deployed during deploy infiltrators step.

Currently there is no IC's in the game with the exception to shrike that have permission to grant infiltrate to a unit and deploy via infiltrate rules.

The only reason he has permission to do so is his special rule specifically says he can join a unit before the game begins.

No other IC can do so.

Sorry I cant understand what you are saying. Can you explain? You are saying that oblits can't get deployed via infiltrate from cypher?

Normal units must be deployed before Infiltrators.

A character joins a unit by being deployed within 2" of them.

So if the Oblitorators have been given Inflitrate, Typhus cannot be joined to them, as he must be deployed before them.

yep its a timing issue.

Infiltrate would confer to the unit, and it does if the unit is held in reserve.

However, if you hold them in reserve they then cannot infiltrate since they are deployed in reserve.

If you infiltrate Cypher for example, he cannot be attached to the unit before he deploys and thus does not confer infiltrate to them.

 avedominusnox wrote:
Sorry I cant understand what you are saying. Can you explain? You are saying that oblits can't get deployed via infiltrate from cypher?

Correct. This is because Infiltrators are deployed after normal units. So the Oblits are deployed and then Cypher is joined to the unit - but you can't re-deploy the Oblits.

So what I ve seen in the internet and here in dakka battle reports with cypher infiltrating centurions is wrong? I thought that they played it right.

He cant infiltrate them, but he can give them infiltrate, which allows them to outflank from reserves.

 avedominusnox wrote:
So what I ve seen in the internet and here in dakka battle reports with cypher infiltrating centurions is wrong? I thought that they played it right.

Many people play it that way, but by the rules it's wrong.

 Eihnlazer wrote:
Currently there is no IC's in the game with the exception to shrike that have permission to grant infiltrate to a unit and deploy via infiltrate rules.

The only reason he has permission to do so is his special rule specifically says he can join a unit before the game begins.

No other IC can do so.

Nor can Shrike.

His rules restrict who he can join. They don't give permission to do so.

 insaniak wrote:

 Eihnlazer wrote:
Currently there is no IC's in the game with the exception to shrike that have permission to grant infiltrate to a unit and deploy via infiltrate rules.

The only reason he has permission to do so is his special rule specifically says he can join a unit before the game begins.

No other IC can do so.

Nor can Shrike.

His rules restrict who he can join. They don't give permission to do so.

Shrike is a weird case, since the intent is very clear, but GW rule writers screwed up.

It's been fairly clear since the start of 3rd edition that ICs were intended to be able to join units before deployment... It's just never been possible, aside from a brief period at the end of 5th edition thanks to an FAQ update that wasn't carried across to 6th edition.

 avedominusnox wrote:
So what I ve seen in the internet and here in dakka battle reports with cypher infiltrating centurions is wrong? I thought that they played it right.

What could have happened is that they rolled a Warlord Trait that gives the Infiltrate USR for 1 or more units. Those having Infiltrate, allow an Infiltrating IC join them the moment they are deployed (after everything has been deployed). Or they could have been using house-rules/ignorig the rules/wrong interpretation.

What you can do is infiltrate an IC and a unit, as long as both possess the rule: Karandras and Striking Scorpions possess the Infiltrate rule, so you can join Karandras to the SS unit and infiltrate both. If you either jin Karandras to a Fire Dragons unit or Jain Zar to a Striking Scorpions unit, neither will be able to infiltrate because the Fire Dragons and Jain Zar are forced to be deployed BEFORE infiltrators - taking Karandras and the SS along in the ride.

Vector Strike,
I know it is picky, seeing the end result is the same, but the order of operation is Deploy then Join.

JinxDragon wrote:
I know it is picky, seeing the end result is the same, but the order of operation is Deploy then Join.

No it isn't. They join by being deployed with them.

JinxDragon wrote:
Vector Strike,
I know it is picky, seeing the end result is the same, but the order of operation is Deploy then Join.

as insaniak said, and:

Joining and Leaving a Unit
An Independent Character can begin the game already with a unit, either by being deployed in unit coherency with it or, if the unit is in Reserve, by you informing your opponent of which unit it has joined.

If you have not finished the act of Deploying, have you Deployed?
Deploy has to come first because it is that deployment which triggers the joining....