School shooting in Seattle - Shooter dead.

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**Mr. Burning**

Just seen on the UK BBC site that a shooting in Seattle has taken place. Look like reports are just coming in.

News coming off the World service radio.

2 dead including gunman.

Hope any dakka members and their friends and family in the area are safe.

Updated thread title - looks like a school shooting.

Bummer.

**Jihadin**

From what we have so far....one dead=the shooter

**Mr. Burning**

Hope it is just the shooter.

**Frazzled**

Reports now - two dead, one being the shooter.

**Jihadin**

Crap

I was really hoping it was the shooter but since it was in a cafeteria
I know the FBI looking into it.

**Ahtman**

Jihadin wrote:
I was really hoping it was the shooter

When I saw it the first time it was just two wounded and one dead shooter. I'm guessing one of the wounded didn't pull through, and that sucks. I too was initially hoping that it was just the shooter.

**Psienesis**

Marysville, not Seattle. They're about 30 miles north of us, fairly rural community. Reports are mixed, local news is reporting somewhere around 6 injured, 2 dead, one being the shooter.

Early reports suggest this was a jilted lover incident between two students.

**Breotan**

Here are some more details on how pathetic this kid was.

http://news.yahoo.com/social-media-posts-reveal-washington-school-shooters-personal-struggles-220952462.html

Jason Sickles wrote:Washington school shooter Jaylen Fryberg's personal struggles revealed on social media

Social media posts penned by the shooter in Friday’s rampage at a Washington State high school portray a head-over-heels teenager who grew more and more tormented when the relationship fell apart.

Authorities have identified the gunman as Jaylen Fryberg. Fryberg’s Facebook page shows him living in Tulalip Bay, nine miles from Marysville-Pilchuck High School where police say two students were killed — including the gunman — and at least four others injured in the Friday morning shooting.

“I can't believe I just witnessed a shooting,” Austin Joyner, a student at the school, said on Twitter. “Kid came into the cafeteria and walked over to a table and pulled out the gun and shot 4-6 shots at students sitting down.”

The Seattle Times reported that several students told them that Fryberg, a freshman, was responsible. Kobe Baumann, 14, told the paper that he was with Fryberg in English class right before the shooting, and that he appeared kind of nervous.

“He sits right up in the front,” Baumann said. “He got called on but he just kept his head down and didn’t really say anything.”

Fryberg’s social media accounts tell of his interests in sports, music, hunting, Native American activities and family affairs. He posted many pictures of him and the same girl, often commenting about his crust.

“I love you baby girl,” Fryberg wrote when he posted their picture on his Instagram account. “I promise to love you for the rest of my life.”

Jaylen Fryberg @frybergj

Girl You My Angel. Your My Darling Angel
3:50 AM - 20 Jun 2014
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2 Favorites

He was clearly still smitten at the beginning of the summer, but somewhere along the way his messages took a sour turn.

Jaylen Fryberg @frybergj

I hate that I can't live without you
5:32 PM - 20 Aug 2014
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40 Retweets 27 Favorites

Jarron Webb, 15, confirmed to the Seattle Times that the shooter was angry at a girl who would not date him.

Some of Fryberg's tweets over the last few months — such as “Your not gonna like what happens next‼” — appear to be threatening, but it is unknown who he might have been targeting.

Jaylen Fryberg @frybergj

Your not gonna like what happens next‼️
12:39 AM - 20 Aug 2014
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176 Retweets 77 Favorites

He sent his final tweet on Thursday.

Jaylen Fryberg @frybergj

It won't last.... It'll never last....
8:17 AM - 23 Oct 2014
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1,774 Retweets 1,033 Favorites

Wow. That took a lot of edits. Apparently emogies really mess with this forum.

**Dreadclaw69**

http://www.cnn.com/2014/10/24/us/washington-school-shooting/index.html?hpt=hp_t1

The gun used in the shooting has been traced to Fryberg's father

**Breotan**

Dreadclaw69 wrote:
The gun used in the shooting has been traced to Fryberg's father

**Jihadin**

I'm a huge "ass"of weapon security. If Dad had secured his weapon properly or let alone in a "hidden location" then we might just had a stabbing incident instead of a "pray and spray" in the cafeteria. Though the ones that were the targets all sat at the same table.

Breotan. I'm thinking he had an extended mag for the 9mm. A 30 round mag for the pistol itself

**Hordini**

Jihadin wrote:

Breotan. I'm thinking he had an extended mag for the 9mm. A 30 round mag for the pistol itself

The article said that wasn't the case, and he just had a regular magazine. And it was a Beretta 40., not 9mm.

**Jihadin**

Crap. Med's still in me. Thanks for correcting me.

**Hordini**

Jihadin wrote:
Crap. Med's still in me. Thanks for correcting me.

It's all good brother.

**Ahtman**

Breotan wrote:
What does that even mean? How the hell is a Beretta a "high capacity" anything? Is the term "assault pistol" soon to become part of the cable news lexicon?

It means anything can become assault with the right accessories.

**Dreadclaw69**

Breotan wrote:
Chelsea J. Carter, CNN wrote:It is a "high capacity" weapon but did not have an extended magazine, the source said on condition of anonymity.
What does that even mean? How the hell is a Beretta a "high capacity" anything? Is the term "assault pistol" soon to become part of the cable news lexicon?

It's the new scary term when talking about pistols, like describing an AR as an assault rifle. From the sounds of the report it was a standard capacity magazine.

Ahtman wrote:
It means anything can become assault with the right accessories.

Oh no! Its got the shoulder thing that goes up and a pistol grip!!! At least it doesn't have a bayonet lug

**Jihadin**

No bullet button though?

Forward Assist for for remedial action or "SPORTS"

**Breotan**

Some more info...

http://news.yahoo.com/washington-state-teen-shooters-family-living-nightmare-010722563.html

Eric M. Johnson and Victoria Cavaliere wrote:Washington state teen shooter's family living in 'nightmare'

MARYSVILLE Wash. (Reuters) - Relatives of a Washington state teen accused of a high school shooting rampage said on Saturday that they were living in a "nightmare" and struggling to understand why the boy targeted his two cousins and several friends before killing himself.

One girl was killed and four other freshman students were severely wounded in Friday's morning rampage inside the cafeteria at Marysville-Pilchuck High School, north of Seattle.

Police have not formally identified the student gunman, but family members on Saturday told Reuters 14-year-old Jaylen Fryberg was the shooter. Relatives also said two male victims were his cousins, Nate Hatch and Andrew Fryberg.

"I feel very distraught, like it's a nightmare," said Paula Hatch Satiacum, 49, the aunt of one teen and a relative of the other two.

She said there was "no indication" of trouble between the cousins before the incident.

Brandon Hatch, 26, the boys' cousin, described the three as best friends who lived just doors away from each other on Native American land, near Marysville.

“Nate and Jaylen and Andrew grew up together," Hatch said. "They’d go over to each other’s houses on the weekend, after school, and play games, play sports together."

Both the Hatch and Fryberg families are members of the Native American Tulalip Tribes.

"As far as I knew, they were all a bunch of bright kids and had a future," Hatch said. "It's very hard. I don't know why this happened. I've heard the rumors, but I just want to know the truth."

Investigators said they were still searching for a motive and had recovered a .40 caliber handgun from the school.

The shooter targeted a cafeteria-table gathering of his friends and family, prompting a lockdown of the school and a flood of heavily armed police, law enforcement officials and witnesses said.

One girl was killed. Her identity has not been released.

Fifteen-year-old Andrew Fryberg, was in critical condition with a gunshot wound to the head, and Nate Hatch, 14, was in serious condition with a gunshot to the jaw, hospital officials said.

Two other female victims, Shaylee Chuckulnaskit, 14, and Gia Soriano, 14, remained in critical condition at a different hospital, medical officials said.

The incident sent shock waves through the Tribes and broader Marysville, a town of about 63,000 people, with many voicing disbelief that Fryberg could be responsible.

"Jaylen was always outgoing, an athlete," Brandon Hatch said. "He was a funny guy at times, too, a jokester."

However, there were troubling signs. Classmates and parents said Fryberg had recently had a dispute on the football field.

Rebecca Cooley, whose son played football with Fryberg, said he had been in a fight with another player over a disparaging remark made during football practice.

"(Jaylen) broke the kid's nose," Cooley said. "A lot of the football players stepped in during this fight."

There were also hints on social media at a disappointment of some sort. Messages at times suggested signs of heartbreak and anger.

A school official who requested anonymity and a friend of one of the female victims said a girl had recently rejected Fryberg.

"I heard he asked her out, and she rebuffed him and was with his cousin," said Bella Panjeli, a ninth-grade student at a different school who said she was a friend of one female victim.

'A LITTLE BIT OLDER'

Vigils for the victims were planned through the weekend.

At the Mountain View Presbyterian Church in Marysville on Saturday, a somber group of students, parents and residents tried to offer comfort and make sense of the tragedy.

John and Cindy Honeyman said their 15-year-old son, Isaac, was ordered to shelter in a classroom during the shooting.

"They are all just a little bit older today, and that makes me sad," Cindy Honeyman said, her eyes reddened from tears.

The Tulalip Tribes said in a statement on their website that the community was "reeling from this experience.

"Sadly, we are now experiencing what has become a national trend, which we, as a society, must address," the statement said.

According to the Snohomish County Sheriff's Office, a school employee had tried to stop the shooting, the latest in a string of such incidents that has prompted national debate about school safety and gun laws.

**Andilus Greatsword**

Out of curiosity, who shot the shooter? Was it police, another armed student or a faculty member? Did he even have any rounds left when it happened? Or did he commit suicide?

**Grey Templar**

I think he shot himself.

**daedalus**

Dreadclaw69 wrote:

Ahtman wrote:
It means anything can become assault with the right accessories.

Oh no! Its got the shoulder thing that goes up and a pistol grip!!! At least it doesn't have a bayonet lug

It dispenses lead at unwitting victims at an alarming rate.

**Dreadclaw69**

Breotan wrote:
Some more info...

http://news.yahoo.com/washington-state-teen-shooters-family-living-nightmare-010722563.html

Eric M. Johnson and Victoria Cavaliere wrote:Washington state teen shooter's family living in 'nightmare'
a girl had recently rejected Fryberg.

So, close to the Isla Vista killings.

**Daemonhammer**

I think that since he was armed with a handgun in a room full of people and only 1 person besides him died we can probably call it luck.

Im still laughing at that "Assault pistol" part, shame they didnt call it an "Assault gun".

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I think the morals of this story is that women need to learn to treat men better. If they did this wouldnt happen.

DISCLAIMER: This is a joke.Just sayin' .

**Breotan**

And here is what the "gun control" side had to say about a ballot initiative in Washington State.

**Ouze**

Good to know that everyone in favor of "gun control" got together and elected a spokesman.

**Breotan**

In a sense they did. There are two competing ballot initiatives in Washington State. One, 591, put up by gun rights advocates and another, 594, put up by gun control advocates of which Nick Hanauer is a primary spokesman. Whenever you lend your signature to a petition, you are essentially electing the people behind it as your spokespeople.

**Jihadin**

A bit fuzzy on which is the one that concern back ground checks with transfer of a weapon to a family member so they can go plinking.

Edit

Hmmm time to get another M4 version of a AR15 for the wife
She loves her .40 cal pistol

Bob made an appearence today to as I was grilling steaks over here Breo. Did not have the heart to shoot the three year old black bear with a paint gun
Bob = Big Ole Bear = fat bear with a steak

**Breotan**

591 - State requirements cannot be greater than Federal requirements.

594 - Background check any time a weapon is transferred.

**Jihadin**

I do not believe though they apply on Tribal lands

**Breotan**

I'll be honest, I'm also unsure how jurisdiction works when tribes are put into the mix.