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Hi guys

Just looking for some thoughts on my 1850 point list.
This is for normal club play for fun as I don't have any intention of entering any comps but I still think its a decent list

Any feedback welcome

Imperial Fist Tactics

Chapter Master (235)
Iron Halo
Thunder Hammer
Terminator Armour
Eternal Shield

Honour Guard - 5 Man (160)
1 x Power Maul on Chapter Champion
4 x Power Mauls
Chapter Banner

Storm Raven (200)
Twin-Linked Assault Cannon or Lascannon
Twin-Linked Multi-Melta
Stormstrike Missiles
(Chapter Master And Honour Guard In Storm Raven)

Scout Squad - 5 Man (63)
4 x Bolters
1 x Heavy Bolter

Tactical Squad - 10 Man (220)
Bolters x 7
Sarge with Combi Flamer
1 x Flamer
1 x Heavy Bolter
Razorback with Heavy Bolter
(Combat Squadded)

Assault Squad - 5 Man (95)
3 x Chainswords And Bolt Pistols
2 x Flamers
Drop Pod

Sternguard Squad - 5 Man (205)
5 x Combi Melta
1 x Drop Pod

Landspeeder (80)
2 x Multimelta

Ironclad Dreadnought (190)
Powerfist and Concussion Hammer
Assault Launchers
Heavy Flamer Upgrade
Heavy Flamer Upgrade
1 x Drop Pod

Allies

Command Squad - 5 Guardsmen (60)
(Barebones - All Guardsmen have Lasguns - No Upgrades)

Infantry Platoon (155)
5 x Platoon Command Guardsmen
20 x Guardsmen
1 x Commissar
(Barebones - All Guardsmen have Lasguns - No Upgrades)

Leman Russ (170)
Battle Cannon
Heavy Bolter Sponsons
Hull Mounted Heavy Bolter


Total 1853

I'm only commenting on IG.
1) LR should have no sponsons. Ordanance makes all other guns snap shot.
2) why bother with unupgraded guardsmen? Drop the Platoon, get a Vet squad, give them some gear. Either Camo gear + lascannon or Meltas/Plasmas and a Chimera.
3) why bother with unupgraded CCS? It seems you took the list to get a LRBT, so get a Tank Commander for your LRBT to ride with.

LRV, Las, Tank Commander 175
LRBT 150
Vets, Camo, Lascannon 90

Total: 415

Old total: 385

You just need to free up 30 pts from your SM list, or 20 pts if you turn the Las into an Autocannon.

 danjbrierton wrote:
I'm only commenting on IG.
1) LR should have no sponsons. Ordanance makes all other guns snap shot.
2) why bother with unupgraded guardsmen? Drop the Platoon, get a Vet squad, give them some gear. Either Camo gear + lascannon or Meltas/Plasmas and a Chimera.
3) why bother with unupgraded CCS? It seems you took the list to get a LRBT, so get a Tank Commander for your LRBT to ride with.

LRV, Las, Tank Commander 175
LRBT 150
Vets, Camo, Lascannon 90

Total: 415

Old total: 385

You just need to free up 30 pts from your SM list, or 20 pts if you turn the Las into an Autocannon.

I agree with this^

Thanks for the advice gents

Im a newbie to IG so don't really know what works well.

The reason I took the allies was to get a LR and also to have a squad of troops to tarpit the enemy a bit and act as meatshields. With orders was going to use Front Rank Fire Second Rank Fire.

I do love tanks though so I think your suggestion has a lot of merit. I think I will have to go that way

SM Part looks fine - plenty of bolters for the CT. If you are looking to save points, maybe ditch the razorback for a normal rhino (it wont survive long enough to make its points back). You could also look at downgrading the Chapter Master to a Captain and Honour Guard for Command Squad or Vanguard, but I'm not sure the point saving would be that great.

Either the points or the fit out on your Sternguard unit is wrong too.

Also, I hate to see a 1850 pt army with no psykers. Either try to make room for a Libby, or don't IG have some cheap choices?

You can get an astropath in the Company Command Squad for a pittance of points.

Sponsons are....not bad, actually. 9 shots, even snap-firing, will achieve something as often as not, but its main advantage is to protect the battlecannon from Weapon Destroyed results by reducing the odds of killing the main gun.

Certainly, they're the first thing I'd drop if I was short of points, though.

I know Guardsmen are 'disposable', but even if you want them as a throwaway screen, a few upgrades makes them much more effective. For example, very, very few points could arm every guardsman in your platoon command squad with a flamer - giving them some ridiculous crowd control firepower for their price.

Front Rank Fire! Second Rank Fire! is okay, but 18 lasgun shots is not really anything to write home about. The commissar should make sure it actually goes off, at least.

 Iapedus wrote:
SM Part looks fine - plenty of bolters for the CT. If you are looking to save points, maybe ditch the razorback for a normal rhino (it wont survive long enough to make its points back). You could also look at downgrading the Chapter Master to a Captain and Honour Guard for Command Squad or Vanguard, but I'm not sure the point saving would be that great.

Either the points or the fit out on your Sternguard unit is wrong too.

Also, I hate to see a 1850 pt army with no psykers. Either try to make room for a Libby, or don't IG have some cheap choices?

Thanks for the advice mate.
Will probably drop the Razorback for a Rhino.
Sorry the Sternguard fit-out is incorrect. Ammended

Hmmm...will think about a psyker. Maybe an IG one for cheaper points



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locarno24 wrote:
You can get an astropath in the Company Command Squad for a pittance of points.

Sponsons are....not bad, actually. 9 shots, even snap-firing, will achieve something as often as not, but its main advantage is to protect the battlecannon from Weapon Destroyed results by reducing the odds of killing the main gun.

Certainly, they're the first thing I'd drop if I was short of points, though.

I know Guardsmen are 'disposable', but even if you want them as a throwaway screen, a few upgrades makes them much more effective. For example, very, very few points could arm every guardsman in your platoon command squad with a flamer - giving them some ridiculous crowd control firepower for their price.

Front Rank Fire! Second Rank Fire! is okay, but 18 lasgun shots is not really anything to write home about. The commissar should make sure it actually goes off, at least.

Thanks for the advice

Astropath seems the way to go

I actually might drop the sponsons. 9 snap shots seem decent enough but it will have the hull mounted bolter for weapon destroyed so that should help a bit

FRFSRF seems to be decent enough though. 30 Lasguns at rapid fire range with FRFSRF = 90 shots

To be honest though I might just go for adding the veterans and the dual tanks as said above. Especially as I already have enough models to fill this up.
Will give it a try and see how well it works.




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NEW LIST

[u]Imperial Fist Tactics

Chapter Master (235)
Iron Halo
Thunder Hammer
Terminator Armour
Eternal Shield

Honour Guard - 5 Man (160)
1 x Power Maul on Chapter Champion
4 x Power Mauls
Chapter Banner

Storm Raven (200)
Twin-Linked Assault Cannon or Lascannon
Twin-Linked Multi-Melta
Stormstrike Missiles
(Chapter Master And Honour Guard In Storm Raven)

Scout Squad - 5 Man (63)
4 x Bolters
1 x Heavy Bolter

Tactical Squad - 10 Man (200)
Bolters x 7
Sarge with Combi Flamer
1 x Flamer
1 x Heavy Bolter
Rhino
(Combat Squadded)

Assault Squad - 5 Man (95)
3 x Chainswords And Bolt Pistols
2 x Flamers
Drop Pod

Sternguard Squad - 5 Man (195)
4 x Combi Melta
1 x Drop Pod

Landspeeder (80)
2 x Multimelta

Ironclad Dreadnought (190)
Powerfist and Concussion Hammer
Assault Launchers
Heavy Flamer Upgrade
Heavy Flamer Upgrade
1 x Drop Pod

Allies

Leman Russ Exterminator (180)
Heavy Bolter Sponsons
Hull Mounted Heavy Bolter
Tank Commander

Leman Russ Battle Tank (150)
Hull Mounted Heavy Bolter

Veteran Squad (82)
10 x Veterans
1 x Autocannon Team
1 x Sniper
Camo And Snare Mines Upgrade

Total 1850