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Ok so without being super cheesy here is a list I am toying with for Rebels in RiF2.

34 Avatar of the Tomed
10 Romulan Flagship
02 Salatrel
02 Interphase Generator
01 Romulan Pilot

32 D'Deridex (generic borgafied)
03 Toreth
02 Massacre
02 Cyrano Jones
02 Interphase Generator

90 Total

According to the OP rules borg ships in a Rebel fleet count as Independent so the Avatar amd the generic become duel faction Romulan/Independent. So there would be no faction penalty for Cyrano Jones. That gives me 2 ships with 5 die attacks, 3-7 evade dice and 6 hull. I also like the idea that if need be the Avatar can cloak, sensor echo, and regenerate all in one turn. Nice for those pesky Warp Core Breaches.

Thought?

that's brutal. Knowing how competitive your meta is, it's valid and viable. I don't like it, particularly, but it certainly does the job.

After seeing the scimitar I had this idea as well:

38 Scimitar
02 Salatrel
02 Interphase Generator
02 Interphase Generator
02 Tactical Officer

36 Reman Warbird
03 Toreth
03 advanced cloaking
02 Tactical Officer
90 total.

2 six die attack ships, each with 7 hull, both can fire and remain cloaked, to avoid those pesky transphasic torpedoes. Plus both can reroll rerolls with tactical officers. Salatrel will get to attack their best ship at Skill 10 when they are in the forward arc.

I like the maneuverability of the D'Deridex so I guess it will come down to the Scimitar's dial.

Ok is this wrong or just mean

24 Keldon class
04 Dukat
05 Independent Fleet captain (2 techs, talent*)
00 conditional surrender*
03 Jennifer Sisko
02 cloaked mines
02 cloaked mines
02 cloaked mines
02 cloaked mines
02 cloaked mines
46 Total

38 Scimitar
02 Salatrel
02 Interphase Generator
02 Interphase Generator
00 Parhem (just in case)
44 total

90 total fleet

Hmm. Will you see Damar much? I have to say, when I read rif2, I thought cloaked mines would be the way.

I think, honestly MrS, I wouldn't. It's vicious, and heading towards cheese. You are a brilliant at this game, understand it inside and out, and that's a money build.

 inmygravenimage wrote:
Hmm. Will you see Damar much? I have to say, when I read rif2, I thought cloaked mines would be the way.

I think, honestly MrS, I wouldn't. It's vicious, and heading towards cheese. You are a brilliant at this game, understand it inside and out, and that's a money build.

You are right sir, just because we can doesn't mean we should. It is nice exercise in fleet building, but I don't think I could do it to my fellow gamers

Ok so I think I may have nailed down a list. This is for a faction pure event, I expect some feds and Klingons maybe some Dominion.

38 Scimitar
02 Salarel (3-1=2)
01 Interphase Generator (3-2=1)
00 Polarized Hull Plating (2-2=0)
02 Tactical Officer (3-1=2)
43

36 Reman Warbird
00 Admiral Hiren (1-1=0)
03 Toreth (4-1=3)
05 Independent Fleet Captain (Talent, Tech, Tech, -1pt for all Tech)
00 Free Talent
01 Interphase Generator (3-2=1)
00 Polarized Hull Plating (2-2=0)
02 Advanced Cloaking (4-2=2)
00 Parehm (1-1=0)
47

90 Total

Ok so that gives me two, 6 attack ships, that can cloak and stay cloaked if needed. They each can shake off one bad defense roll and change 1 crit into a hit. Toreth will skill 9 and Saletrel will be 10 if the enemy is in the front arc. Parhem is there just incase there is a really annoying crew member out there. Saletrel gets some more accurate shooting with the Tactical Officer, but Toreth has her ability for a hit to crit. I'm not sure which talent to give Toreth, but I am leaning towards Massacre.

So what do you think?

Looks good, but what does Massacre do?

If you inflict a crit discard to deal 1 more damage. It works well with Toreth and doesn't take an action like most other Romulan talents. It is nice for when someone has only one hull left.

I ran a very similar list, though I hadn't considered the hull plating. My list was a Scimitar with Salatrel and 2 Interphase generators along with a Valdore with Toreth + independent flagship (free actions) and an advanced cloaking device. I believe they both had tac officers, as well. Then I pulled the Prakesh and had all the free actions. It worked out really well, but I was top seeded and went with my Borg Diamond + Sphere list for the last round.

I absolutely annihilated my non-Borg opponents with the Diamond/Sphere list and felt bad. But at least I won!

It's also worth pointing out that I would probably have run a second scimitar rather than the Valdore if I felt like buying a second one. I had to jump a number of hoops to get the Valdore the same statline as the generic Reman Warbird.

I would really like to get a second Interphase Generator on the Scimitar, but I can't think of anything to cut out even if it is only 1 point . The hull plating is free anyway in this list.


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Overall I am happy with the Romulan fleet for my rebels. I am still a little hung up on my "Borg" fleet. I was tossing around:

32 Dominion Battle Cruiser
10 Independent Flagship
05 Khan
03 Cyrano Jones

32 Dominion Battle Cruiser
05 Dukat (skill 7)
02 Boheeka

I haven't used the cruiser much, so this would be a good chance to test it out. I was also kicking around the idea of running 2 borgfied Ferengi Marauders, but I haven't nailed down a list yet.