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Eacute cole Militaire (Paris)

Am I right when i read the rules of the new battlesuit Flame Plasma Death thing, noticemthst it can Place 2 Times a ap2 Template on my deathwing termis,wound them on 2+ and kill em all?
Thats sick?

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Fireknife Shas'el




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1st, it has Gets Hot.
2nd, Termies have 5++ (and FnP, if applicable).
3rd, it reaches only 14", at most.
4rd, it costs whooping 230p.
5th, it's a Jet Pack MC (meaning only 6" on the move phase) and can only use its super-jump each 2 turns.

AP3 on R'varna was quite the stretch, but that one has a 60" range. 14" AP2 is acceptable.

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"FW is unbalanced and going to ruin tournaments."
"Name one where it did that."
"IT JUST DOES OKAY!"

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Water-Caste Negotiator





Well - I think Vector covered it well. I feel you on this weapon being extremely effective against Terminators (I mean... an average of 7 to 8 wounds on a unit relying on 5++ is rough and will most likely wipe them) I could see the secondary mode of fire changing to AP3 whilst remaining AP2 on the primary mode just to mitigate this sort of thing but as I am a Tau player I'd be remiss if I didn't say I'm excited about Y'Varha.


Oh and you can always agree with your opponent not to use FW stuff... I feel that's fair play.

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Longtime Dakkanaut





You also forget that it is still Experimental Rules and as always they have a very very large chance of being nerfed. So wait with the complaining untill the final rules are out.
   
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Longtime Dakkanaut





You have to get insanely close to your opponent making it much easier for them to assault you or bring more weapons to bear on it, it has x1 less wound, 230pts BEFORE upgrades and it only has a 14inch effective range with x2 weapons with completely different roles. Definitely not as strong as the R'Varna was before the nerf, don't think they will change it at all.

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Shadowy Grot Kommittee Memba






Solution: don't play with FW experimental rules.

"Got you, Yugi! Your Rubric Marines can't fall back because I have declared the tertiary kaptaris ka'tah stance two, after the secondary dacatarai ka'tah last turn!"

"So you think, Kaiba! I declared my Thousand Sons the cult of Duplicity, which means all my psykers have access to the Sorcerous Facade power! Furthermore I will spend 8 Cabal Points to invoke Cabbalistic Focus, causing the rubrics to appear behind your custodes! The Vengeance for the Wronged and Sorcerous Fullisade stratagems along with the Malefic Maelstrom infernal pact evoked earlier in the command phase allows me to double their firepower, letting me wound on 2s and 3s!"

"you think it is you who has gotten me, yugi, but it is I who have gotten you! I declare the ever-vigilant stratagem to attack your rubrics with my custodes' ranged weapons, which with the new codex are now DAMAGE 2!!"

"...which leads you straight into my trap, Kaiba, you see I now declare the stratagem Implacable Automata, reducing all damage from your attacks by 1 and triggering my All is Dust special rule!"  
   
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Krieg! What a hole...

Well we have to test them somehow

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