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I don't play federation much, i am much more into klingons and romulans. I made this list to inspire those of you that do and like those loaded fed ships. This is for s rebel fleet in RiF 2, so remember that all captains and upgrades are -1 point.

30 USS Voyager
05 Admiral Kirk (admirals don't get the -1)
03 Christopher Pike (-1 point to all of his crew)
05 Independent Fleet Captain (talent, crew, crew, makes all crew in the fleet -1 point)
00 Cheat Death ( free b/c of fleet captain)
00 Chekov
02 Scotty (TOS)
02 Riker
01 Paris
00 Phlox
48 Total

28 USS Enterprise D
05 Picard (9)
04 Cheat Death (if you don't have 2 maybe Sacrifice or Engage)
00 Miles O'Brian (starter)
00 Elizabeth Shelby
01 Sulu (TOS)
04 Photon Torpedoes (5 shot BS conversion, but if you have tactical stations take that instead)
42 Total

Ok you have 2 ships that conform to the new OP rules. Each has a 360 attack and 9 skill captains. Pike, fleet captain, and the scenario make Voyager crew -3 points. Enterprise D gets crew at -2. Voyager gets 3 evade dice and thanks to Riker/Phlox can do BS & Scotty in the same turn. The big D gets 3 evade with Sulu re rolling a blank or 4 against the borg re rolling all blanks.

So what do you think?

I've said it before and I'll said again: you are a fleet-building demon! That's a really clever build, and not explicitly cruel

Looks like Admirals do get the -1 bonus per the WK rules forum. I may do a version of this for RiF 2. Either that or a Flagshipped Maht-H'A with Scotty (ToS). I love using Scotty for the +2 attack and then still cloaking...


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Shouldn't Voyager be able to take another Crew? 3 from Voyager, 2 from Fleet Captain, 1 more from Riker?

Yeah, WK posted the discount for Admirals a few days after I thought up the list, so that gives an extra point to mess with. I left a crew slot open on Voyager because I thought inwas out of 2 point crew, there was Kyle but he was a little redundant with Scotty. But now with that extra point we can take a crew that would have normally been 3 points. Hmm may have to think on this for a min.