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im decently new to 40k and need to make a 1850 list for a local tourney but im not very good at listmaking im playing daemons i currently own these models but can invest in others if needed just trying to get more into the game if someone could help me make a good competetive list itd be very helpful thanks as i said i dont mind investing in more models if needed just want a very viable army list

1 Kairos Fateweaver
1 Bloodthirster
2 demon princes
1 herald of tzeench on disc
9 screamers
1 soul grinder
40 bloodletters
30 daemonettes
30 pink horrors
5 seekers of slaanesh
3 bloodcrushers
Csm stuff
20 chaos cultists
1 helldrake
1 sorcerer or similar character also works



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any help would be awesome

Let's see here:

For HQ run fateweaver and bloodthirster w/2 greater and one lesser
Get a second soul grinder, 2 soul grinders of nurgle with phlegm bombardment is one of the strongest parts of any daemon list
Run at least 1 daemon of tzeentch, with ml3, warp, armor, 1 greater rewards + exalted rewards for grimoire (if you run a second get 2 greater+1 lesser)
Herald is ok, I don't run him but if you can make him work he's good
For troops just run pink horrors. Daemonettes and bloodletters are crap (but keep them with you incase you get 12 on the warp table, then deepstrike them next to opponent)
All elites are awful compared to other things
If you can get them run flesh hounds with karanak in a unit with them, these run across the field quickly and swarm large vehicles
Hopefully my advice was helpful.

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Let's see here:

For HQ run fateweaver and bloodthirster w/2 greater and one lesser
Get a second soul grinder, 2 soul grinders of nurgle with phlegm bombardment is one of the strongest parts of any daemon list
Run at least 1 daemon of tzeentch, with ml3, warp, armor, 1 greater rewards + exalted rewards for grimoire (if you run a second get 2 greater+1 lesser)
Herald is ok, I don't run him but if you can make him work he's good
For troops just run pink horrors. Daemonettes and bloodletters are crap (but keep them with you incase you get 12 on the warp table, then deepstrike them next to opponent)
All elites are awful compared to other things
If you can get them run flesh hounds with karanak in a unit with them, these run across the field quickly and swarm large vehicles
Hopefully my advice was helpful.

Sorry to be a pain, or seem like a douche. But that advice is semi-competitive, viable yes, tourney winning no, at best mid-field.

My advice would be:
fateweaver is a great HQ choice, a definite in most daemon armies.
The herald of tzeentch on disc, lv3 with the screamers, also very good.
Tzeentch princes with wings, armour, 2 greater and 1 lesser rewards, gives a hard to kill and very shooty FMC.
Soul grinder with the mark of slaanesh and torrent is the best loadout.
Daemonttes great to be summoned, or also great to be taken as a troops choice, great for taking out wraithknights and riptides.
pink horrors are cheap easy warp charge and can fill up your mandatory troops slots.

That's what is good from the list of things that you say you have now, anything not mentioned isn't worth taking.

Extra things to buy or consider:
- a second soul grinder
- flesh hounds with khorne herald on juggernaut (not Karanark)
- Be'lakor
- more screamers
- plague drones

The main question is, what sort of daemon list do you want to use, and feel most confident with? If you don't know which builds are good, I strongly recommend you look at some tourney lists.

Hope this helps

Fateweaver, and 9 Screamers with a lvl 3 herald with a greater gift on a disk is a pretty great start to the army. Throw in 2 11 man pink horror squads and go from there.

I LOVE Fleshhounds of Khorne with a Herald with an axe and the locus of fury or rage. I use warhounds from Warriors of Chaos (Much cheaper and fit the bill) and I use Archaon as my herald. All-in-all about 70 dollars retail for a 500 point unit. You can probably get them all online for about 50 bucks.

Your list of models is perfectly serviceable with what you have right now currently, you should play a few games with it and see what you like. Then decide on purchases. Actually don't go out and buy anything until you play with the models for a while and see what you like to play or what your play style is.

Just for like starters?

Can you be clearer on the models you have?

For example, do any of your Slaanesh Daemon Princes look like they are Heralds or could be heralds?

Do your Daemon Princes have wings?


First off

5 Seekers of Slaanesh, perfectly suitable to use these as Slaanesh Heralds in Daemonette Squads.

2 Daemon Princes, great ( do they have wings?)

Soul Grinder Great Model


Chaos Allies:

These are good however the Heldrake aint what it used to be.

So just off the top of my head? For a good list?

Off the Top of My head

FateWeaver

1 Herald of Tzeentch on Disc w/ Level 3 , Grimoire or Portaglyph

1 Herald of Slaanesh on Steed ( Steeds give you outflank)
Level 2 Psyker


Troops

15 Daemonettes

12 Pink Horrors of Tzeentch
Fast Attack

9 Screamers of Tzeentch

H. Support

Soul Grinder, Mark of Slaanesh

Daemon Prince of Tzeentch ( Do these guys have wings?)

Daemon Prince of Tzeentch ( Do these guys have wings? )


So yeah there you go. Just summon the rest of the Daemons.

Your Daemonettes can out flank , Soul Grinder can actually keep up with a flying Daemon Prince with Shrouding or give it invisibility and drop into their deployment zone.