Forum adverts like this one are shown to any user who is not logged in. Join us by filling out a tiny 3 field form and you will get your own, free, dakka user account which gives a good range of benefits to you: No adverts like this in the forums anymore. Times and dates in your local timezone. Full tracking of what you have read so you can skip to your first unread post, easily see what has changed since you last logged in, and easily see what is new at a glance. Email notifications for threads you want to watch closely. Being a part of the oldest wargaming community on the net. If you are already a member then feel free to login now.

PhantomViper wrote:


Like it or not, football players are role models for kids and having someone that was actually convicted of rape spend minimum time in prison and then go right back to earning obscene amounts of money sends the wrong message to those kids, not to mention to the victim herself.

Because "don't commit crimes or you'll go to prison" isn't enough?

feth that. That's your job as a parent to present your child with a moral compass, not some athlete or actor.

I'm just glad I'm no longer young and single. If I was, and especially if I was famous, I'd have waivers of consent with me at all times.

PhantomViper wrote:

 cincydooley wrote:

Because "don't commit crimes or you'll go to prison" isn't enough?

When it comes to crimes like rape, murder and the like? No, it isn't nearly enough.

If I was in charge he wouldn't be able to play football ever again, but he would be able to instead apply for a job as a lyrical singer, of the castrato variety!

I have trouble with that.

Rape is bad. There's no arguing that. But I've read a few articles on this Ched fellow's case, and I just don't think it's appropriate to lump him with forceful sexual predators. His sentence seems to indicate that a jury of his peers agreed.

I think there's a lot of nuance in these types of crimes that gets ignored and labels people that, perhaps, it would be diligent to reevaluate.


Automatically Appended Next Post:
I mean, I hate that I'm writing this, because again, RAPE IS BAD, but not all "legal rape" is even remotely the same.

 hotsauceman1 wrote:
And people wonder why I hate sports.
if this guy was looking for a job in the private sector, he would never get one because of his conviction. But it seems sports doesn't have standards when hiring people

This isn't true at all.

This is literally the first hit from a google search: http://www.businessinsider.com/10-ex-criminals-who-completely-turned-their-careers-around-2012-6?op=1

Only one was an athlete.

So please, get off it.

 Co'tor Shas wrote:
Rape is horrible, and rapists are horrible people, but from the description I was just given it seems to just be legal rape, not actual rape.

That, sir, is pretty unsafe water you're treading there. I actually agree that there really needs to be some delineation in how the law is defined, much more than it already is, but just be careful how you phrase that. And definitely keep that on dakka and not some of the other places on the internet!

I think how we consider rape/sexual assault in the US needs to be overhauled entirely. Because the charges are so overly broad, and the acts are so much nuance, it seems to me that there really needs to be more specificity to help charge people with the "correct" crimes.


Automatically Appended Next Post:

PhantomViper wrote:


Also, for the record, I really hate the expression "legal rape"... Rape is rape, it shouldn't matter if the rapist is holding a knife to the victims throat, using his influence as a teacher (for example), or taking advantage of someone that obviously isn't in any state to decide for herself/himself, it should all be treated the same.

Well that's really the problem. None of those things are even remotely the same, and yet legally they are.

That's why we have trouble getting convictions on a lot of things.

 Ensis Ferrae wrote:

Also, depending on your jurisdiction or which laws you fall under, it IS possible for a man to be raped, however it is very rarely reported. This could be down to a low instance of actually happening or that, because of society's "macho man" principles, it gets reported very rarely.

So there's this: http://www.slate.com/articles/double_x/doublex/2014/04/male_rape_in_america_a_new_study_reveals_that_men_are_sexually_assaulted.html

 Ouze wrote:


There have been similar issues here with the rape victims of sports figures - Kobe Bryant's comes to mind.

'

Which has more to do with crazy fething people, not the actual crime itself.

And is hardly limited to sports figures.