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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/11/21 16:26:49
Subject: Unbound vs Battle Forged for Formations
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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If I take an Army made up of Formations, is that army classed as Unbound or Battle-Forged?
In the BRB, pg 117, it says that Battle-forged armies must use Detachments but strictly speaking, Formations aren't a Detachment..?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/11/21 16:44:10
Subject: Unbound vs Battle Forged for Formations
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Lieutenant General
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Formations are Detachments (First sentence of 'Formations' in the 'Choosing Your Army' section of the rulebook),
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'It is a source of constant consternation that my opponents cannot correlate their innate inferiority with their inevitable defeat. It would seem that stupidity is as eternal as war.'
- Nemesor Zahndrekh of the Sautekh Dynasty Overlord of the Crownworld of Gidrim |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/11/21 17:07:34
Subject: Unbound vs Battle Forged for Formations
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Just seen it, thanks!
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YMDC = nightmare |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/11/22 02:07:14
Subject: Re:Unbound vs Battle Forged for Formations
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Unlike other Detachments, Formations can also be taken as part of Unbound armies. If they are, their units maintain the special rules gained for being part of the Formation.
technically if your army is made up of just formations you can claim its unbound or battle forged.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/11/22 02:26:40
Subject: Unbound vs Battle Forged for Formations
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Lieutenant General
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I don't read it that way. All that says to me is that if you have a formation amidst the chaos of an Unbound army the units in the formation keep their special rules for being part of the formation. It doesn't indicate that an army composed of just formations can claim to be Unbound.
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'It is a source of constant consternation that my opponents cannot correlate their innate inferiority with their inevitable defeat. It would seem that stupidity is as eternal as war.'
- Nemesor Zahndrekh of the Sautekh Dynasty Overlord of the Crownworld of Gidrim |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/11/22 16:07:29
Subject: Unbound vs Battle Forged for Formations
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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there's no restriction or requirement as to how much of a part that can be.
it can be 0%
or 100%
or between, as all are part of the army.
as such it is possible to have an unbound army made up of just formations
just as it is possible to have a bound army made up of just formations.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/11/22 21:41:15
Subject: Unbound vs Battle Forged for Formations
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Lieutenant General
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A formation is a detachment, so are you saying that an army consisting of nothing but detachments can be considered as an Unbound army?
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'It is a source of constant consternation that my opponents cannot correlate their innate inferiority with their inevitable defeat. It would seem that stupidity is as eternal as war.'
- Nemesor Zahndrekh of the Sautekh Dynasty Overlord of the Crownworld of Gidrim |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/11/22 21:44:35
Subject: Unbound vs Battle Forged for Formations
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Powerful Phoenix Lord
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Ghaz wrote:A formation is a detachment, so are you saying that an army consisting of nothing but detachments can be considered as an Unbound army?
Technically yes. However, you would not gain any Command Benefits.
Unbound is take what you want. Battle-forged has a restriction of requiring everything in a detachment, and the bonus of getting Command Benefits.
Of course with an all Formation army, there are no Command Benefits, and regardless of Unbound or Battle-forged, you still get Formation bonuses.
So I'm really not sure what the point in claiming the army is Unbound serves.
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Greebo had spent an irritating two minutes in that box. Technically, a cat locked in a box may be alive or it may be dead. You never know until you look. In fact, the mere act of opening the box will determine the state of the cat, although in this case there were three determinate states the cat could be in: these being Alive, Dead, and Bloody Furious.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/11/22 22:17:19
Subject: Unbound vs Battle Forged for Formations
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Fixture of Dakka
Vanished Completely
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I'm not sure we have a choice, but it is an argument of semantics and the end result is identical regardless... so I do not see a point in it either.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/11/23 01:33:26
Subject: Unbound vs Battle Forged for Formations
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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yeah honestly there is no point, as it has the same rules under either title at that point.
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